I thought Atkins says No to Caffene and diet pills..
 

Hmm..Look whats new..



Anyone try this stuff yet?

link :rolleyes: :confused:

Well this one really has me stumped?
 

From the link you provided:

"Containing ingredients that have been clinically shown to enhance fat burning and help control appetite"

Now isn't that silly! Doing Atkins, or any Low Carb program does all that for you just by the nature of what we eat. We eat low carb, get into ketosis to burn fat..and the side affect of ketosis is appetite suppression.

My 2 cents? Why buy the pills? Low carbing does it for you.

We live in an instant gratification society. This looks like just another way to enforce instant gratification.

$13.95 will will buy you a couple of thick juicy steaks.

Money Money Money


You know.....I am becoming very very disappointed in Dr Atkin's and this marketing crap he is getting involved with. First is was those insane informercials and now this.

I am beginning to think maybe this is a quick weight loss scheme. :rolleyes:

In all fairness, how many posts do we see here from people who use thermogenics and say they help, especially if you are one of those who tend to lose very slowly or are stuck at a plateau?
Perhaps appetite control was poor wording on their part. If I'm not mistaken, it has chromium in it for help with craving control. The product description indicates that it's for people who are just beginning to low carb (and may need a bit of help with appetite and craving control the first week or two) or those stuck on a plateau who may find a thermogenic helpful in kick-starting things again.
Sure, it's mostly about making a buck, but I think it's also partly about providing a thermogenic that is ephedra-free for those that are going to take them and as a thermogenic, this one is cheaper than most of them out there.
Am I going to try it? Nope. He has a lot of other supplements that I don't take either.
His site also says this about the caffeine in the product:

"The 50 mg of caffeine in Accel is equivalent to about a third of a cup of coffee. This small amount is a consequence of the green tea extract and for most people, the benefits of this outweigh considerations concerning caffeine. If you are very sensitive to caffeine, please do not use this product."

LisaN

It might just boil down to a difference in definition. I don't equate control appetite with control cravings, so I didn't pick up on the chromuim connection. To me they are two diffent things. A person can have no appetite, but still have cravings, and I guess that is where the chromium would help.

Maybe I'm too much of a purist, in that I think the best way to start LCing is to give it a good try without the use of aids such as this. Many people are successful when they start, without using an aid.

By advertising it as something to use at the start, in my mind, negates all the good things about a low carb plan. We're probably talking about advertising philospohy here, and there isn't a right or wrong answer, just points of view. :)

Pfft. Thats what I'm sayin. And to think he gets mad when people think of it as a "fad diet" or don't take him seriously. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

How does he expect this WOL/WOE/Diet to look any different when he looks like the rest of em now, with all the little extra products to "help" him get more money! Whether or not these things even work, dosen't it contradict what he says about ketosis? That's supposed to burn fat..

And ya, like AngelaR said.. Induction is supposed to kill cravings and FAT is supposed to kill appetite...Go figure. :thdown:

Angela...

I think it comes down to a matter of choice. A lot of people give up on low carb in the first week because of carb withdrawal and the cravings they experience. Once you get past the first week, it gets a lot easier but that doesn't mean that you won't still have cravings once in a while. It's been 18 months for me and I still get them sometimes. Once you've been low carbing for a while, I think people tend to forget how hard it was when they first started; how bad the cravings really were. Now, I'm not saying that this is some kind of magic bullet, but if it helps some people why not? Of course, they could probably get very similar results just taking some chromium and l-glutamine on their own, but how many people know about that before they start low carbing (or even in the first week for that matter) and would it be a less expensive alternative? Chromium isn't too bad, but L-glutamine can be pretty pricey. I personally, prefer to follow this WOL with as few supplements as possible (I hate taking pills and often forget them), but others might benefit from a little extra help at the beginning, especially to get their low carb "sea legs" firmly under them. As I said, I don't plan on trying it, but I wouldn't discourage someone from it, either, just because I dislike the commercialism of it all. Is it the supplement that people are objecting to or the idea that the low carb "ideal" is becoming too commercialized?

Lisa and Angela,

I actually agree with both of your points. I personally would rather try induction and Atkins on real foods and see how far I can get on my own. And the only bad thing I see about this is for newbies starting induction because they're looking to do it the easy way..Like the people that come on here wanting to eat bars and drink shakes all day like it's SlimFast. They would never learn how to eat right and get their cravings under controll without the help of a supplement. What happens when they stop taking it? The cravings might come back and they'll probably want to stay on it forever out of fear of gaining weight. (like all the other ones)

But on the other hand, I can see using it to help break a plateau. When I first started Atkins, I got stuck on a 5month plateu at 130.... The scale would never budge past it. I got desperate and started eatting less, exercising more and taking crap like Metabolite... And although I don't want to try this, thinking back to how it felt being the same weight for 5 freakin months... I probably would try it. :daze:

But then again this product pisses me off because it looks a marketing thing and Dr. Atkins is just out to get our money, not so much help us lose weight. And the "appetite controll" part pissed me off. Makes him sound like a hypocrite. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: