diet soda dangerous?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114880,00.html
This might explain why some of us crave diet soda specifically, not just caffeine. It's also interesting to me since someone close to me is a diet coke AND carb addict, is overweight and has fibromyalgia. |
LIEBERMAN: I have to tell you something about that. If you look at the research, people that drink diet sodas are oftentimes eating more calories than people drinking regular sodas.
I would have to disagree with that part, I was a coke-a-holic for many years, and found myself eating ALOT more garbage when drinking coke as opposed to the diet, but maybe since I started LC, I really don't drink diet sodas at all, I guess I am just paying more attention to what I am putting in my body now and I knew caffiene was a problem for me............... :) LIEBERMAN: Well, you also can get a certain amount of methanol, which is the more toxic alcohol. That's a byproduct of NutraSweet and aspartame, if you're drinking a lot of it, and that's a wood alcohol that's actually rather toxic and can cause some problems as well. So you have a substance that, when you're taking in really large amounts, is going to affect your chemistry, your brain chemistry, your... Also this part is kinda scary, knowing we have all these teenage girls running around drinkin diet sodas, no wonder the pregnancy rate is so high! We can't let our kids know about this legal form of intoxication............... :) I wonder if that affects your B.A.C? " NO, really officer, I only had 4 diet cokes?" Makes ya wonder :) Thanks for posting the article, it was very interesting to read, I never gave this to much thought............. Any other thought?[COLOR=Blue] |
I've always been against soda's. Somehow I feel the carbonation is bad for you-weakens bone structure or something. The last I heard was the increase of fractures in youth was lack of calcium-soda's instead of milk.
I can believe the sweet taste sets off an insulin response and cravings for more carbs . |
I don't buy that sweet taste setting off insulin response. I think that's been disproven an ample number of times.
Here you go, you can catch up on your Cokelore at: http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cokelore.asp |
I have never been a fan of soda, and I haven't had it once since I restarted this diet. I would rather just have water.
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I am a reformed diet soda drinker. I thought that I didn't drink too much and I watched other things that I ate. I devloped abnormal liver readings (the equivalent of someone having 5-6 alcholic drinks a day), I suffered migraines, I craved junk, I was dignosed with diabetes.
Then I talked to my sister who was warned off aspertame by her nutritionalist. I stop ths same night and within 6 weeks my liver reading dropped by 1/3 and are now back to normal 10 months later, the headaches are gone, I don't crave the junk food near as much and with the Atkins WOL, have got my blood sugar under control and lost weight. Too much of the stuff is very bad for you. |
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Nancy, there was nothing on that site about insulin response and sweetness. |
Nope, not there. But the usual "soda dissolves your teeth and bones" and cops cleaning the freeway of blood stains with it, gets dealt with there.
Someone posted a study on this forum a while back that was a study of insulin responses to a variety of sweetners. I'm sure you can find it with a good search. Here's another good read about diet coke: http://shopping.guardian.co.uk/prin...-103409,00.html And I'll find the insulin response and artificial sweeteners study when I get a chance. But aspartame is digested as a protein and your body is smarter than your tastebuds are. |
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she sounded like an cigarette addict trying to justify smoking :) |
I was a Coke drinker for decades and then switched to Diet Coke because of sugar. Started Atkins and found out Aspartame can slow down weight loss in 25% of all people doing Atkins.
Now I have found this wonderful (Crush) Diet Cream Soda which is sweetened with Splenda and only 0.03 grams of carbs per can. Dr Atkins speaks highly of Splenda and it is in all kinds of LC products. Still losing weight steadily, drinking water and my bloodwork is good so I am just happy I have something else to drink than water all the time :) |
This whole idea of aspartame becoming methanol is bunk. Sure, it happens, but in such small amounts. According to http://www.finchcms.edu/cms/biochem.../aspartame.html , a normal can of diet soda has 0.024g of methanol produced in the body. Tens or hundreds of grams are necessary to approach lethal or problematic dose. That might be an issue if you're drinking over 50 sodas a day, but I doubt even the heftiest of soda drinkers are doing that.
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Ok, here's some studies I found at: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov, I did a search on "insulin aspartame"
Presumably all peer-reviewed and published in respected scientific and research journals, not from random nutritionists promoting a book or with an agenda. Now, I'm not a metabolic scientist, so I have to struggle to understand these. The first one seems to indicate that the phenylalanine in aspartame gives you a feeling of saiety and theyr'e trying to figure out how. phenylalanine was commonly used in OTC diet pills for a long time, maybe still is. I know it is a supplement you could also buy at a Health food store. Anyway, interesting but the real reason I included it was because it shows no rise in glucose or insulin when you consume it. Quote:
This one showed that mice ingesting ASP lost weight compared to ones on regular old water. Quote:
And then this one is interesting! It shows that bitter tastes might actually cause the pancreas to release insulin. However, aspartame has no bitter taste to it. However, some sweeteners do! Quote:
And here's another one specifically testing artificial sweeteners and insulin release. Quote:
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And just for good measure, here's one on the supposed neurobehavior of aspartame users
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I guess artificial sweeteners will probably always be demonized since they're produced artificially and people seem to automatically judge anything created artificially as bad and anything natural as good. Never mind that most of the life-saving medications and medical treatments wouldn't exist today if it weren't for people tinkering with nature. And from what many of us have experienced from natural sweeteners (i.e. sucrose), I think artificial sweeteners may well be potentially life extending, provided they help us stick to a low-carb life style. Ok, my next project will be to look up info on Stevia and see what it does on insulin and if there are any studies its toxicity. |
I've read a lot of research on AS, but I am one that has something triggered when I use them. I don'tknow if it's just the sweet taste, but it definitly sets off cravings. Very intense cravings.
Also they all taste artificial to me. I haven't tried stevia yet, but even Splenda tastes funny to me. As for soda? If the AS dont' bother you, go for it. For kids tho, I never let my kids have diet, and limited how much they could have. I don't think it should be demonized, and I think it's generally ssafe. I kept it from my kids because it was still relatively new to the market and I'd heard too many anecdotal stories about side effects. I can't drink soda because of the carbination. But there are times in the summer a nice cold coke would taste great! |
"I guess artificial sweeteners will probably always be demonized since they're produced artificially and people seem to automatically judge anything created artificially as bad and anything natural as good."
But sugar is not natural either. Neither is white flour or white rice. These items have had any nutritional value taken out of them when their "healthy" parts are taken away as part of their refinement. We all know the results of what these foods have done to us. The key to everything is moderation and making the healthiest choices possible. |
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