Anyone know anything about Raw Foods?
 

2 weeks so far and I am so happy w/SP! I am really enjoying the food and feel quite well (knock on wood). Anyhow, I've been reading about the raw foods way of eating and was just curious if anyone knew anything about it or had any experience with it. I know I could never go 100% raw, but I can see the value in trying to eat at least 1 or 2 meals per day that way. I was searching around the net and actually found some amazing recipes. I guess people use dehyrdators to make crackers and pizza crusts, etc. Seems like a lot of work though. Not abandoning SP, just wondering if anyone had any incite on incorporating this? Thanx!

--Cindy

raw foods
 

I certainly agree that there is value to eating some raw foods each day, and I almost always eat at least one large salad and one piece of raw fruit per day. However I disagree with the raw fooder's philosophy. I did some research on this a couple years ago when I was trying to decide what would be the healthiest diet. The raw food diet is a very high carb, low protein diet (since it doesn't include raw meat ;) ). Most of the raw food recipes are too high in carbs for this program. I do agree with them on the premise that too many baked goods and processed grains are unhealthy. Some nutrients are maximized when food is eaten raw, others when food is cooked.

Jen

Hi Cindy:

I totally agree with Jen. It was a couple of years ago that I came across the raw food diet.

Since SPII, I find that I'm eating most of my non-starchy veggies raw and lightly steam them for dinner. I also try to eat a cooked starchy veggie (lightly steamed) each day.

I just read Dr. Wilson's book and he said the same thing that Jen says. You need to eat a variety of cooked and uncooked veggies to maximize your nutrients in order to heal your adrenal glands.

The raw food diet only gets about 10% of their intake from protein so, like Jen, I also think it is potentially dangerous. I would bet there are a lot of failure to thrive raw foodists out there.

I can't remember where I read that you had decreased your meat intake so wondered if it would marry well with the raw food diet (maybe in your journal). I would suggest maybe following the vegetarian component of SP for the meals you eat without meat.

HTH,
Wanda

Hi guys,

I did notice that many of their recipes would be too high in carbs and low in protein to be able to eat. I'm not ready to give up meat entirely again and I don't think I could stand not being able to have any dairy either. When I was vegetarian I decided to become vegan and lasted about 1/2 a day until I figured out that would mean giving up chocolate! :rolleyes: I guess I do eat a lot of my veggies raw now, but maybe I will try to eat more salads and possibly incorporate some of their ideas about using raw nuts in nut butters, etc. I did find the veggie SP suggestions helpful, but I guess I still still eat enough dairy and stuff for it not even really to be an issue. Thank for your input!

--Cindy

Sounds like a great plan. :thup: I don't eat commercially roasted nuts anymore and I use organicc nut butters that are only slightly dry roasted, but I'm leaning towards eating raw nut butters. I have to research a little more b/c you can't eat some nuts truly raw, like peanuts and cashews, and they seem to be my favorites.

I have a dehydrator and read somewhere to dry roast raw nuts in the dehydrator. You got me thinking about it again. But I finally got over my "damaged fat" nut addiction so I don't know if I'm ready for it.

I was a vegetarian for 17 years and sometimes go through phases where I don't want to eat meat, but I've had to make a deal with myself b/c I was a bad vegetarian. It's either meat or tofu. LOL, usually the meat wins out b/c I don't like tofu.

Wanda

Actually, there are people who do a raw foods diet that includes meat.. two Yahoo groups that are good are RAVF (something like raw animal and vegetable foods) and the Live Foods group (which isn't specifically pro-meat, I don't think, but may include discussion of it).

A common tenet of raw foods groups seems to be that some studies show fewer enzymes are available to aid digestion of a food when it's been cooked. Proteins in particular can denature or change with cooking. Raw eggs and raw cream/milk (which is tasty and available in some states) is part of the way of eating, and a lot of people find energy and other benefits from these things. One would have to make peace with how one felt about the "food safety" of eating uncooked eggs and drinking uncooked (unpasteurized milk). I've done both, and only felt better... you do need to make sure you're careful to get a good supplier, etc.

There are people who are a LOT more adventurous than I'd be with raw meats, but sashimi (sushi without the rice) and very thinly sliced beef carpaccio (aka beef sashimi) are easy ways into it. So are raw eggs in a shake of some sort. Another easy step toward the raw foods direction is to be careful of what fats you intake, to use only cold-pressed oils rather than fats damaged by heating. (If you are going to cook with an oil, check a chart available somewhere on the Web to see which ones are damaged the least by heating.) Another thing one can do is be careful to get fresh vegetables, grass-fed meats, etc., rather than canned, frozen or otherwise prepared things that do often contain synthetic chemicals one wouldn't expect unless one read labels very closely.

I don't eat all raw by any stretch, but I've always favored salads over cooked things, get sashimi whenever I can at reasonable cost, and favor steaks rare.

An adjunct to going all-natural, so to speak, is to consider what you put ON your body as well, as a lot of absorption does occur. (As one person mentioned, if you doubt this, put a piece of garlic in your shoe and see how quickly you start to actually taste garlic.) So lately I've been trying to use skincare products made directly from plants (some brands include Aubrey Organics and Dr. Hauschka) rather than those that contain a lot of added, synthesized things.

That last point, synthesized things vs. as-close-to-a-whole-food-as-possible, is one of debate (as are all things in nutrition, it seems!)... I'm not *certain* that an added synthesized chemical here or there will hurt me, but want to experiment with avoiding them and see how things go. Some theories loosely argue evolutionary precepts, that one's body has, thanks to history, grown familiar with chemicals as encountered when part of a whole thing, like a plant. That is, the liquids, hormones, antioxidants, whatever, go along with the aromatics of the plant, etc. and the body may treat that differently than a lump of some white powder it gets that's made from processing rock but has an identical chemical configuration to some chemical contained in a plant.

Since it's been found that synthesized chemicals do often work in the body, that's a more esoteric point of debate. I doubt it's been studied (much) as to whether there are benefits when a chemical is directly derived from a whole food, or problems that arise when it's not. But it's an interesting theory to experiment with if nothing else. There are some who believe that fresh-from-the-field (or dairy, or henhouse etc.) food has 'energy' the body can readily use vs. processed 'very dead' canned, frozen, dried or cooked foods. That is, not energy in the form of calories, but prana, chi, etc. - a less currently defined kind of available 'life force'... some attempts have been made to photograph that with kirlian photography (which senses what's called a corona discharge, I believe - though the relevance of that's heavily debated).