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SkaterGirl Thu, Oct-05-06 06:40

Hypothyroidism and Alcohol?
 
I have a weird problem / observation, and the endorcinologist I finally got referred to had NO interest in hearing about it at all (He was a condescending ass from the start of the appointment, too!)

Anyway, I've been hypo for years. About a year ago, at the same time my thyroid tanked, my alcohol tolerance went WAY up. I did not drink often/a lot, and usually liked to rely on a glass of wine to help with pms or back pain from time to time.

ALSO at the same time, my tolerance for painkillers went WAY up as well. I used to keep a prescription for T3's in my bathroom for emergencies (If my back got to the point of making me wish I was dead, I'd take one). 30 pills would last 6-12 months. All of a sudden, rather than them making me stoned feeling, sick, giving me a hangover (all of the reasons that I HATE taking them and avoid it at all costs), I wouldn't feel even so much as a dent in the pain, slight nausea, or any sign of that awful "stoned" feeling. Regular tylenol, aleve.. nothing worked for anything anymore.

This all went on for a year. I tried a few times over the past year to see if it was possible for me to get intoxicated, and no dice. Probably not the smartest idea, but the whole thing baffles me.

This week, after being on a new, higher dose of synthroid for several months, I got sort of fuzzy after ONE drink. I took some Aleve for my back that night, under the hunch that it would actually help, and it did!

As un-classy as this sounds, the next day I decided to test it again, and managed to get pretty drunk off about 7oz of alcohol. Big change from last October, the first time I decided to try to get drunk. I gave up after 17 shots and a few vodka coolers.

A couple of my friends present that night are either pretty far along in med school, or actual doctors. They're baffled. Aside from being hypo, I'm VERY healthy, and they pointed out that if it was a liver issue, the exact opposite would be happening.

Because it's followed the pattern for a long time, I'm wondering if anyone has experienced a similar pattern. I find it kinda weird to be thinking "Ooh! I can feel the alcohol! My thyroid must be a bit better!!", but it really has remained consistant through a few waves of it.

Nancy LC Thu, Oct-05-06 09:31

I'll be damned, never heard of such a thing. I had something of the opposite happen to me, I can't tolerate alcohol much at all. On a low carb diet it gets even worse.

Annabel33 Sat, Oct-07-06 07:19

Quote:
Originally Posted by SkaterGirl
Because it's followed the pattern for a long time, I'm wondering if anyone has experienced a similar pattern. I find it kinda weird to be thinking "Ooh! I can feel the alcohol! My thyroid must be a bit better!!", but it really has remained consistant through a few waves of it.



YES! At my worst point I could drink a bottle of wine and not feel anything other than a mild drowsiness...As I've been on T4 for over a year now, I find having a drink will help, though when my thyroid is low, I just get tired after a drink. When thyroid is good, drunk on a glass.

Weird or what?

Glad it's not just me! :D

Quilter Thu, Oct-12-06 13:25

Disgusting.

nka Wed, Jan-31-07 11:06

I can totally relate to this. I can drink HUGE grown men under the table and when i went to get my oral surgery done; I was under twilight sedation, had 3 doses of halcion, and still needed a shot of novocaine every 60 to 90 seconds. He said he never used that much medication on anyone and the killer is that I told him about it and he said I wouldn't remember anything so he gave me a code word to remember while I was starting to feel the IV and I remembered the whole procedure and told him the code word when I was done. He said in 15 years I am the 2nd person who was able to do that.
also I've had 4 c-sections. During my first two I was given epidorals (sp?) and each time they had to inject me 15 times before I was numb enough for them to do the surgery. No one believes me when I tell them this.
Thankfully my last two c-sections were under general anesthesia because the first two were nightmares.

ditzy Thu, Feb-01-07 16:55

Wow, no I have never thought of that. I'll have to start paying attention. I have noticed I used to get a buzz, but now I just get tired. Figured it was age. I also use 2x as many painkillers (ibuprofin, goody's) to get rid of aches than a few years ago. I wonder if that dr who wrote the thyroid book, (Dr. Blanchard?) would be interested if you wrote and asked him?

SkaterGirl Fri, Feb-02-07 08:45

Just wanted to check in with an update.

Turns out that not only was I under medicated for 9 years (I've always known Synthroid was crap, just couldn't find a Dr that'd prescribe Armour), but my adrenals were fried.

Now that I'm on Armour and hydrocorisone, things are much better, and I'm less hypo than I was. Also, I had a glass of champagne the other day, and it hit me like a ton of bricks. I'm more sure than ever that it's hypo related.

Also, the day after the champagne realization, my husband encouraged me to take an aspirin for a headache, something I haven't bothered with in years.. and it worked!!

Faith Mama Mon, Feb-05-07 11:21

Quote:
Originally Posted by SkaterGirl
Just wanted to check in with an update.

Turns out that not only was I under medicated for 9 years (I've always known Synthroid was crap, just couldn't find a Dr that'd prescribe Armour), but my adrenals were fried.

Now that I'm on Armour and hydrocorisone, things are much better, !



Yes, I found that synthroid was horrible..... switched to Armour two years ago and found it to be much better.... tho I have not related to any alcohol changes.

Annabel33 Mon, Mar-12-07 23:29

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quilter
Disgusting.



I'm curious. What is 'disgusting'? :lol:

kbclocarb Sat, May-05-07 00:34

Just to throw this one in, I haven't seen any difference with the effects of alcohol before and on T3, but had noticed my tolerance seemed to be dropping as my health (lots of hormones out of whack) deteriorated.

I have since worked out that this was actually down to just one of those out-of-whack hormones: insulin. What was happening wasn't a case of one drink and under the table, it was one drink, a huge insulin spike and then hypoglycaemia.

Having experimented a little, with the aid of my trusty glucometer, I've found that if I'm going to have a drink, I need to get some protein (and fat) into me FIRST. Then no problems. So, the old rule about not drinking on an empty stomach is even more relevant for me.

So, a possible answer to the question may be an effect of thyroid hormones on insulin response, or something like that.

Annabel33 Sat, May-05-07 18:43

Interesting post Smiffy. Thanks for that.

:)

talervo Tue, Jul-20-10 16:50

I too am hypothyroid, but have always been on armour. Lately, I've been taking some of the thyroid supplements, too.

I've had a weird thing with alcohol happen with me too. I found I can't drink hard alcohol, but am ok with beer. Wine sulfites always seemed to get me more drunk than usual and my face got really red, so I've avoided too much wine.

What happens is that I get really really sick off of just a little alcohol. Not sure why beer is different, but I don't get sick off of it. Maybe because it's hard to drink too much beer?

In the past I've avoided using pain pills because they didn't effect me much either and I used to get killer cramps.

aeroangie Tue, Jul-20-10 19:47

Anyone that likes to party won't find this thread "disgusting." I for one found it interesting b/c I too have lost my tolerance since I have become sicker with the Hashimoto's. So, to anyone that finds this disgusting, consider some people make a living entertaining clients (in my case with a charter boat business) so this can be a detriment for a person in this situation if they aren't aware that their body has changed.

talervo Wed, Jul-21-10 14:19

aeroangie - did you just lose your tolerance or do you get sick from the alcohol?

aeroangie Thu, Jul-22-10 10:46

Lost tolerance! I used to be able to pound beers or had no problem having several martinis with folks. I am the one that mixes and provides the party for my clients when we are out to sea. We also own a limo biz and again, I am the host and the entertainer for our various types of clients that are here on vacation. Now, I have to mix mine really, really weak or I will have to pass out before dark! Man, what a lightweight! LOL! My husabnd is like "WHAT is the deal?" I didn't know for the longest time that it had to do with me being undermedicated with my thyroid.

talervo Thu, Jul-22-10 11:53

That would be difficult not to drink! Hopefully you won't have to do the fake drink and then try to act like everyone else. ;~) Sounds like an interesting job you have, though. Lots of fun?

Nancy LC Thu, Jul-22-10 15:01

Yeah, I want Angie's job!

aeroangie Mon, Jul-26-10 10:32

Thanks to the Armour, I felt better this weekend than I have in a very, very long time! I hope this will last! Wow - what a difference. My husband was amazed. I was making "Tickle Me Pinks" for folks and had several real drinks with no problem whatsoever.

I had a thought about the original post, even though I see now it was a long time ago. When my hypo first started, it seemed like my body would try really hard to "compensate" and things that were depressants (like alcohol) didn't affect me as much as my body was waging a war. However, as the disease, and the resulting hormonal imbalance got worse, the opposite happened and I lost my tolerance. With the Armour, I now feel quite normal once again.

propiel555 Mon, Aug-23-10 10:36

high tolarance for alcohol
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkaterGirl
I have a weird problem / observation, and the endorcinologist I finally got referred to had NO interest in hearing about it at all (He was a condescending ass from the start of the appointment, too!)

Anyway, I've been hypo for years. About a year ago, at the same time my thyroid tanked, my alcohol tolerance went WAY up. I did not drink often/a lot, and usually liked to rely on a glass of wine to help with pms or back pain from time to time.

ALSO at the same time, my tolerance for painkillers went WAY up as well. I used to keep a prescription for T3's in my bathroom for emergencies (If my back got to the point of making me wish I was dead, I'd take one). 30 pills would last 6-12 months. All of a sudden, rather than them making me stoned feeling, sick, giving me a hangover (all of the reasons that I HATE taking them and avoid it at all costs), I wouldn't feel even so much as a dent in the pain, slight nausea, or any sign of that awful "stoned" feeling. Regular tylenol, aleve.. nothing worked for anything anymore.

This all went on for a year. I tried a few times over the past year to see if it was possible for me to get intoxicated, and no dice. Probably not the smartest idea, but the whole thing baffles me.

This week, after being on a new, higher dose of synthroid for several months, I got sort of fuzzy after ONE drink. I took some Aleve for my back that night, under the hunch that it would actually help, and it did!

As un-classy as this sounds, the next day I decided to test it again, and managed to get pretty drunk off about 7oz of alcohol. Big change from last October, the first time I decided to try to get drunk. I gave up after 17 shots and a few vodka coolers.

A couple of my friends present that night are either pretty far along in med school, or actual doctors. They're baffled. Aside from being hypo, I'm VERY healthy, and they pointed out that if it was a liver issue, the exact opposite would be happening.

Because it's followed the pattern for a long time, I'm wondering if anyone has experienced a similar pattern. I find it kinda weird to be thinking "Ooh! I can feel the alcohol! My thyroid must be a bit better!!", but it really has remained consistant through a few waves of it.



For whatever it's worth, I also seem to have developed a VERY high tolarance for alcohol. I wonder why. Can you help?
Thanks

Nancy LC Mon, Aug-23-10 10:49

Quote:
Originally Posted by nka
I can totally relate to this. I can drink HUGE grown men under the table and when i went to get my oral surgery done; I was under twilight sedation, had 3 doses of halcion, and still needed a shot of novocaine every 60 to 90 seconds. He said he never used that much medication on anyone and the killer is that I told him about it and he said I wouldn't remember anything so he gave me a code word to remember while I was starting to feel the IV and I remembered the whole procedure and told him the code word when I was done. He said in 15 years I am the 2nd person who was able to do that.
also I've had 4 c-sections. During my first two I was given epidorals (sp?) and each time they had to inject me 15 times before I was numb enough for them to do the surgery. No one believes me when I tell them this.
Thankfully my last two c-sections were under general anesthesia because the first two were nightmares.

I know this is way old and you're likely not going to read this but wow! That is scary. I saw something on TV awhile back about people being awake on the operating table but because they give them paralytics, they can't even tell them they're awake. ack!

chicochica Sun, Oct-24-10 09:27

no tolerance for alcohol with hypothyroid
 
Well, I'm surprised that there hasn't been more research on this subject b/c reading these posts, it appears that I am not the only one with an intolerance for alcohol with hypothyroidism/Hashimoto Disease. My husband now calls me "Me, Myself and Irene" when I have anything to drink. Been on synthroid for a year now just recently had my dose upped to 1 mcg daily. Glad to know I'm not crazy.

ja10110 Fri, Feb-18-11 16:04

so glad i found your post
 
i know i may be a little late...but i know exactly what you are talking about! i just recently found out i had thyroid problems...but this summer i started drinking a little and no hang over, no buzz, no blackout, nothing...so i switched drinks...to jager...i would drink everyone under the table and still be able to talk straight and walk straight! everyone was looking at me like i something was wrong with me! i dont mean i would have shots, i would have whole glasses at a time! the last time i drank i had a whole bottle of it myself and no hangover, nothing! then i started taking thyroid meds and now i am afraid to drink...i have only been on it for a week and i worry that it will not mix well together and i will fall out...i plan to test it out this weekend at mardi gras but with moderation!
it makes me feel better to know i am not the only one that this has happened too!

katmeyster Tue, Feb-22-11 23:31

I don't know about the cause: I've been LCing and on Armour for about a year -- my tolerance for alcohol is extremely low. At 210 pounds I can barely have a half a glass of wine, and a Michelob Ultra almost makes me drunk. I used to have a fairly healthy tolerance for alcohol, even drinking tequila shots, but I think that would kill me now.

xtroal540 Fri, Sep-16-11 22:14

Neonatal hypo and alcohol
 
I don't know what Armour is, but I was born without a thyroid--therefore I have neonatal hypothyroidism. I take levothyroxine and I haven't noticed much in alcohol drinking. I do get drunk quick being I only weigh like 115 lbs. That's as far as I know, any more advice on hypothyroidism and alcohol issues? :wave:

xtroal540 Fri, Sep-16-11 22:14

Then again, sometimes my tolerance is pretty high...

Adjtime82 Mon, Aug-05-13 13:02

Just thankful I am not alone
 
I ran across your thread and honestly makes me feel so much better, because most of the other threads say that with their hypothyroidism their tolerance has disappeared, and mine is the opposite, I do get tired and generally have a difficult time even really drinking, but I ran out of my medication approximately 3 weeks ago and just noticed this weekend that I can't get buzzed, being only 110 lbs and drinking pretty much a half pint of vodka, my hubby was on a mission to "make me more fun" and get me buzzed, and while he was tipsy I was not affected in the least, and finally told him it was pointless to try. Sorry I drink to get the affects and if they don't come then whats the point, I have also noticed the same thing with my prescriptions, I have add and am prescribed Adderall and no matter how many I take I don't feel any affects from them. Same goes for caffeine, I don't get the jolt of energy as I did before, but ironically it will still effect my ability to sleep, where I just have this tired feeling, but can't fall asleep. According to other's it seemed like I was the exact opposite, so I wonder why some of us have one reaction (noticed other's posted on here with similar reactions) and others have the exact opposite.


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