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LorynJohn Wed, Oct-08-03 11:38

Anyone feel like coaching me through this??
 
Just back from our vacation. BLEW the diet-bad! could definitly have been worse but definitly blew it!

SO, here I am today in diet limbo land. Not at all sure what to do. If you remember me whining in several posts-Im the one that THOUGHT she was doing atkins correctly but after FOUR weeks hadnt lost a THING!

So, while I know I need to do SOMETHING to loose this weight I must honestly admit that I wonder if Im somehow Atkins-resistant or something weird like that. I, like most human beings, need a little reward for my efforts and watching the scale NOT move was so frustrating.

Sorry to be such a downer all the time but NOW what do Ido??? And and all suggestion, comments, sympathy, kick in the pants or ideas will be greatfully appreciated!! xoL

LovableLC Wed, Oct-08-03 11:41

Did you read the book? Is your fat high enough? Are you only eating induction type foods? Are you getting enough carbs, or too many? Are you drinking lots of water? Are you keeping frankenfoods to a minimum or not at all? Have you tried excluding cheese? Are you getting enough calories, or too little? Have you measured to see if you are losing inches but not pounds?

2brickie Wed, Oct-08-03 11:45

okay speaking from experience, vacations seem to do that sometimes. i just returned from two weeks at a national horse show, and let me tell you temptations were high but i succeeded in staying clean. haha thats what i call it. anyway i have fell off the wagon before and i just go right into the high fat fast, the eggs, chicken and avacados thing for about 3 days and that will jump start your ketosis then back to induction until you are losing what you like is what i do. good luck if i can help let me know

Hilary M Wed, Oct-08-03 11:47

Loryn, a few things I might suggest. First, read the book if you haven't already done so. The whole book. Next, make yourself do a perfectly clean Induction for a few weeks to see what happens — no frankenfoods, no Atkins bars, no "just one taste," no cheating at all. Live on salad, eggs and steak if that's all you like, but do not cheat!

If you haven't lost any weight at the end of those perfectly-clean two weeks, you might consider the Fat Fast that Atkins talks about. It's designed for people who are metabolically resistant. But remember, don't try this until you are SURE you've done a clean by-the-book Induction and it didn't work. Fat Fast isn't for everyone.

Third, cheer up! This is a way of eating (hopefully) for the rest of your life. If you look at it that way, it's not such a big deal if it takes you a long time to lose the weight. What's a few months/years on the scope of the rest of your life?

LorynJohn Wed, Oct-08-03 11:49

Yes, read the book. Yes, staying at 20 carbs. Yes, in ketosis. Yes, drining 80-100 oz of water a day (or more). Havent measured but go by how my clothes feel but NO looser.

And I think the only reason I blew it on vaca was because I hadnt lost in four weeks of being very strict. Otherwise, I found staying on this diet very easy. Never cheated in the 4 weeks prior to vaca.

LorynJohn Wed, Oct-08-03 11:52

question-isnt the fatfast for helping a person to get into ketosis?? Ive been in moderate ketosis consistanly since about 36hrs into the diet and HAVE NOT CHEATED ONCE! No, 'just one bites' even!!!!!! For that Im proud!

cincin11 Wed, Oct-08-03 12:26

Lory , I have lost 20 lbs and I still wear the same jeans,(the butt is baggier now). I suggest measuring . It s cool to see that you have lost an inch ,even though the scale says different . Youre not even sure that you didnt lose any inches,you'll never know.

Hilary M Wed, Oct-08-03 12:32

Lory, it sounds like you are doing all the right things. Congratulations for sticking with it this long! I want to advise you to "be patient and stick with it," but that's hard to hear, I know! Maybe you could e-mail the Atkins Center and see what they have to say.

LorynJohn Wed, Oct-08-03 12:35

I did email Atkins and they sent me a rather canned reply and basically sent all the same suggestion all you wonderful people have suggested.

Thank you all for all your patience and suggestion. I guess Im ready to get back on ATkins since it DID make me feel so much better. May not LOOSE any weight but feeling good IS a plus.

L

Isiar Wed, Oct-08-03 12:37

Loryn
I guess the scale doesnt do you any good and ironically is NOT the best way to track your progress. Scales can become our friends but it takes time to get used to its up and downs.
In a given month a woman might have lost 2 pounds of fat but retained 3 pounds of water. When she steps in the scale, all she see is a 1 pound gain.
A much more reliable measure is your volume. Is there any reason why you don't measure yourself?
I agree with the others, go back to strict induction, measure yourself at least in 4 different parts of your body (breast, hips, waist, arms, leg...etc your pants could fit the same because you re loosing from arms...or from breast. Believe THAT coul happen
AND forget about your scale for awhile. Soon you'll see progress.
It could be a good idea, just to make sure there is no a thyroid problem (I'm hypo and I know how can thyroid complicate weight loss) to take your temperature orally 4 times a day (before each meal and before you go to bed) Average your tempearture , and if it is consistently below 98 degrees Farenheit, you re likely to have hypothyroidism and you might want to see a doctor.
Hang in there! Even methabolically resistent people (like me!) can loose fat and sizes. It requires time and patience and put more attention of other factors (like intolerances and allergies) but by the other hand it give us more time to really make this our WOL
Cheers, Isiar

Beadworker Wed, Oct-08-03 12:42

Lori. It sounds like you are doing all the right stuff. Did you post in fitday yet? i know it is a bit time consuming at first, but if you are doing strict induction it should be a breeze. All the same foods over and over. Maybe some of the more experienced players can look at your fitday and see something you are missing - like percentage fat to carbs and protien, and total cals. BTW are you exercising. Your new muscles would weigh more than your missing fat.

LorynJohn Wed, Oct-08-03 12:43

Well, ok-you're right. There is NO reason why I shouldnt measure myself. I guess its one of the suggested things that I havent done. I jsut feel like Im so intuned to my body and the way my clothes fit that I could tell if they were getting looser-BUT-I will do it! Im a good sport and I WANT to ge an Atkins sucess so Im willing to do WHAT EVER IT TAKES!!! Measuring myslef TODAY! And I guess I will put my scale away!

Looking forward to reporting LOTS of changes on my measureing tape!!! (LOL-looks like I will be changeing one obcession for another!!LOL!)

Oh, and Ive had my thyroid studied and Im healthy as a horse. No thyroid issues. On NO medications. No cholesterol issues. No excuses. In fact, my normal body temp tends to run a little higher than 98.6

Off to measure, L

LorynJohn Wed, Oct-08-03 12:45

Yes, Ive been doing fit day. (not for this past weekend though!). And have been getting the hang of it which does make it go quicker.

Isiar Wed, Oct-08-03 16:20

:lol: :lol: Probably I have already become a tape measure addictive...but isn't cool to make some relations with it like, my hips measures now what my breast measured before, or I've lost 1/8 of my arm in my legs.. :lol: It's much better than just saying "I've lost 8 pounds"
Take good care of you and keep posting!
Isiar

Bon Wed, Oct-08-03 17:28

Loryn,

It does sound like you're doing everything right -- except I did not notice if you mentioned that you were exercising (I could have missed it). Are you? If you're not, that may be the missing component.

I've also read posts about yeast problems inhibiting weight loss and causing stalls.

Hang in there... I'm sure you'll find where that puzzle piece goes!

skibunnie Wed, Oct-08-03 18:01

Are you eating too much food? Some of the allowed foods really do slow down weight loss also. Dont give up!

LorynJohn Wed, Oct-08-03 18:01

In all honesty-no I have not been exercising like I should. You are probably right that THAT is the missing link. My husband is going to put new tires on my bike so I can start riding again. I hope that helps. I, like most I guess, HATE to exercise-but Im willing to start riding my bike. Does that sound like a good place to start?

Bon Wed, Oct-08-03 18:11

I love your commitment -- WTG! I actually enjoy exercising, but I am not regular about it. DH and I bought used bikes months ago and have yet to use them. There are not a lot of places here to ride safely. Do you like music? Pop a CD in and jog in place, dance, whatever strikes your mood.

Inches ARE more important that the scale, but it sure is nice to see those numbers go down.

You are not alone with your frustrations... I had good loss in the beginning, but have stalled these past three weeks. I'm back on induction until the scale moves again.

Good luck Loryn. Keep us all posted on your progress!

LadyBelle Wed, Oct-08-03 21:58

For exercising. Get out and take a walk, just stroll around and enjoy the day.

When on your computer, take a moment to slide your bottom off the chair and do dips to work your triceps. When I first started trying to lose weight after my first pregnancy, that was the only exercises I did. After about a month of doing them without really thinking, I noticed my underarms were alot smaller and I didn't have quite so huge of a saggy hangy thing when I waved. It motivated me to start working out more regularly and my entire body.

Get a couple cans out of your pantry. They make good starting level hand weights. Just practice doing things like bicep curls with them, making sure to go extreamly slow and resist against yourself on the way up and down. Then move on to getting an exercise vidio you can do at home. Try to get one that is designed for beginers, and if you are larger, one that accomidates that.

Yoga can also be a wonderful starting point. Most rutines only need enough space you can lay flat. I highly recomend the GIAM company as many of thier tapes feature different levels of the same workout, so you can start at heavily modified and work up to full positions as you gain strength and flexability. This lets you ease into it without injury. Yoga also helps with strength, endurance, flexability, weight loss, posture, relaxation, and after a good workout you feel all over well being. The positions that aid in strength and weight loss generate a heat in your belly that radiates out and can actually make you sweat like your doing hard cardio :)

Make sure to fidget. Tap your feet, stretch often, do small pushups against the wall, just little things that keep you constantly in motion. This not only burns calories, it helps get your body in an active habit.

When your ready see if there is a gym in your area, and what the costs are. If you watch most will have different sales and promotions where you can get a membership at a lower rate. Talk to them about going in a few times to test the atmosphere of the place, and also to get an idea of the equipment, classes, and other features available. Don't sign any kind of contract without that small trial. You may feel even more guilt or misery if you are shelling out money each month for a gym you hate and aren't going to :)

LorynJohn Thu, Oct-09-03 06:59

Ok friends and mentors-just wanted to follow up and say that Ive POSTED my measurements on fit day(I cant believe I did that!) and I ate my avacdo for breakfast this am!!LOL! And plan on taking the kids out in their stroller today for a long walk. (bike tires not fixed yet)
So, Im doing everything I can to make THIS round of Atkins WORK for me!!!!

Beadworker Thu, Oct-09-03 12:07

Good going! Keep being persistent. It will pay off in the long run!


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