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KryssiMc Sat, Jan-15-05 19:22

So Mad Right Now
 
My husband, my daughter and I started this diet three days ago and it's hard. I'm the one who thinks up the meal plans, keeps everybody fed and motivated and gets up at 4:30 AM to make his breakfast. He went to watch the Jets game today and HAD to have a Bacardi and Diet Coke. I know it's no carbs, but the induction rules say NO ALCOHOL. Does he have to start again? Sorry to ramble, I just had to vent. I'm just tired. It's hard enough to do this myself without having to coordinate 3 people with three different schedules.

Kryssi

UrbanZero Sat, Jan-15-05 19:28

Kryssi, post you menus so we can give some feedback, or even better start a fitday journal to track your eating (www.fitday.com). As far as alcohol it depends on the person, if he gains weight from it, then obviously he can't have alcohol. Dr A says no b/c most of the time it stalls weight loss.

Brsuga71 Sat, Jan-15-05 19:30

Kryssi-

According to the book, yes, he does but IMHO, if he is not serious about it, perhaps you should just coordinate for yourself and your daughter. At the very least, you do deserve help/credit for trying to change the lifestyle of your family but you can't do it alone.

And you can't want it for them more than they want it for themselves. To be fair, perhaps it was just a slip up on his part...as you know, it requires discipline to change and do this WOE. For some of us, it takes a few tries to get it right.

Anyway, that was my 2 cents...it won't buy you anything but...
;-)

Good luck!!!

KryssiMc Sat, Jan-15-05 19:35

Thanks
 
Thanks for your help! I'm going to just do it for my daughter and myself for now and leave him to himself. I could deal with it if he slipped up and ate something, but I'm not going to go through this hassle because he decides to party. I just love this board. You're all wonderful, strong people.

AndreaBash Sat, Jan-15-05 19:59

If it were me, I would be thrilled if anyone wanted to do LC with me for even 1 day. I can't imagine how awesome it would be only having to cook one meal instead of 3. You might want to rethink kicking your husband off the wagon. How much easier will it be when you are making 2 meals instead of 1?

AndreaBash Sat, Jan-15-05 20:03

btw, I can't help but notice your goal weight. Even if you have a very small frame, 100 pounds would make you quite underweight. In fact, it would make you underweight even for a woman who is 4' 10". How did you arrive at that number?

mickster Sat, Jan-15-05 20:40

IMHO, I don't think it's that big of a deal to have one bacardi and diet coke. It will just take him a little longer to get into ketosis. Unless of course you WANT it to be a big deal...;)

KryssiMc Sat, Jan-15-05 20:44

Huh?
 
I'm not understanding what you mean about making 1 meal instead of 3. I get up at 4:30 to make his breakfast, then make mine after I work out, then my daughter's. I make his lunch while he's in the shower. Then I have to make my daughter's etc. I've been making alot of meals and I thought he was really inconsiderate. I thought that was what these boards were for...support.

As far as my goal weight, I have a very tiny frame and prefer to be very lean as opposed to muscular. Been under 100 lbs my whole life while eating anything I want. Now that I'm older my metabolism has slowed and I need to kick start it. I gained a whole 20 lbs over the past 3 years and want to be a size two again.

Funny, my doctor told me it was a go for my goal weight without mentioning being underweight. Was she wrong? What chart are you using? I hope not BMI because it doesn't really take frame as a factor.

KryssiMc Sat, Jan-15-05 20:48

Hey Mickster, does he have to start from day one again? Because this would throw off everyone's schedule.

mickster Sat, Jan-15-05 20:58

How much weight does he have to lose? How many carbs was he eating before?

I dunno if he needs to start over again, I drank alcohol while I was on induction. I still lost my weight. I would say just keep on your schedule, and don't worry about him. He'll lose, just maybe not as fast as you.

AndreaBash Sat, Jan-15-05 21:04

Well, I see that you just want to be angry. Whether your husband has a bacardi and diet doesn't impact your cooking schedule in the slightest. However, if he goes off the diet, I assume you will still be responsible for making him breakfast and lunch, which will undoubtedly differ from yours. More meals, not fewer.

If you won't be responsible for his meals, why are you now? Was this a condition of going on this "diet"?

BTW, the charts I use are the standard ones you will find in about 100 places if you just search on "body weight charts" -- just take your pick.

KryssiMc Sat, Jan-15-05 21:09

Silly me figured that I would be the one who would be everyone's rock since this diet is so hard. Usually the woman's job anyway. We have to be everything...or so we think...usually to our own detriment. The idea of Superwoman is probably what put me in this predicament in the first place. LOL.
As far as the standard charts go; that's the problem; they're standard. When I say my frame is small; I mean really small! My wrist right now is about 4.5 inches and my wedding ring is a size 4 1/4. The weight I've gained does not look right on me. Like I said, I've always been under 100 lbs. Around 87 lbs pre and post pregnancy. Then 35 hit. YUCK! Maybe I don't need a diet, I need a time reversal machine. LOL. Anyway thanks for the support, but I have set a realistic goal, I feel, for myself. Good luck in your quest.

Dodger Sat, Jan-15-05 21:11

Kryssi,

The only effect the alcohol has is to replace fat burning with alcohol burning. It will delay weight loss by only a slight amount. If he did it everyday, then it could add up, but if it is only during an occasional sporting event, then it won't be woth worrying about. Go ahead with the eating plans you have made and include him in.

Why can't your husband make his own breakfast? I've made breakfast almost every morning for over 30 years and it hasn't hurt me. As a matter of fact, while you are working out, he can also fix his own darn lunch. Another option would be to have the lunches fixed the evening before and tossed into the refrigerator. There is no reason for you to have to get stressed out in the morning by doing something that you could be helped with.

There is nothing wrong with your weight goal. Heck, it is just one pound below the BMI level of normal. I bet you could get a hair cut and lose that much!

UrbanZero Sat, Jan-15-05 21:24

Did he cook his own meals before, and now you are the only one who knows how to make it low carb? I can see how that would be a burden-- make everyone read the book, that way you don't have to be the live-in LC cook.

Another suggestion would be to make some type of cassarole dishes- that can be heated up later, there are tons of recipes for this type of thing.

You say this diet is hard- is it b/c you are always cooking? Or do you find the choices limiting?

I, along with most others LCing, find it the easiest diet we've ever done. It shouldn't be so hard.

Feel free to rant all you want. That's what we are here for!

KryssiMc Sat, Jan-15-05 21:30

Thanks, Dodger. I guess I was trying to helpful since you reallly need to cook breakfasts like eggs and the like and he has to get up so early. He used to grab a quick breakfast at the deli. Don't want him doing that since you're never really sure what goes into their food.

I'll keep the haircut thing in mind if I stall. LOL

KryssiMc Sat, Jan-15-05 21:33

Thank you too, Urban. Only find the diet hard because we are all carb freaks normally. This is a total lifestyle change and, as it's only been a few days, it's been rough. Maybe there should be a Bread Rehab!

judyr Sat, Jan-15-05 22:22

Don't wory about his one drink. Men seem better able to handle alchol than women. The cooking situation sounds like more of a problem. It can be the kind of thing that sends you off this woe. You may have to play around with what works. Once you get off induction it gets much easier. You can premake breakfast quiches or wraps, then just reheat. Salads and soups are great for lunches, and they can be made in big batches. I make extra for dinner and send leftovers. Once you get past the first couple of weeks everything gets better.

Amazlilith Sun, Jan-16-05 01:35

I completely agree with judyr! I wouldn't worry about the one drink...but although it is sweet of you to be coordinating everyone's meals, you should try to make it a family thing. That way everyone begins to understand what it takes. They will eventually need to make their own way just because you can't always be there for them. Not to mention it would definately make it easier on you. :D

4beans4me Sun, Jan-16-05 10:15

87 pounds at 5'2? Am I reading that right? Yikes.

asalvato Sun, Jan-16-05 10:55

I find if I plan meals and prepare when convenient I can eliminate the early morning and last minute and everyone eats at a different time problems.

Make up salad veggies and put in a plastic bag in the refrigerator. Buy full fat dressing but check the label for carbs--some also have sugar. Instant salad. This can be inhanced with sliced deli meats, cheese, hard boiled eggs.

Hard boil a bunch of eggs. These are good as snacks, great on salad, and you can make an egg salad in a few minutes. I add mayo, mustard, and a bit of garlic salt and pepper. YUMMY.

Make up egg salad, tuna salad, chicken salad, ham salad, shrimp salad, crab salad and put in refrigerator. With some green salad or a veggie, really quick lunch or dinner.

Make a quiche without a crust. Look in the recipe forum as there are great recipes for lunch and dinner quiche as well as breakfast ones. Cut a slice and nuke for a minute. Fast breakfast, lunch, or dinner.

Make a LC cheesecake. This is induction level food if you make it without a crust and it doesn't need a crust. This makes a great quick breakfast, dessert, or snack.

Have cheese, cream cheese and celery ready. Cream cheese on celery is a great snack or addition to any meal.

I make chile without beans. Just heat in microwave.

I make a cabbage roll soup. Brown ground beef, add onions, cook until onions are tender, add a package of cole slaw mix from the produce section, add tomato juice and seasonings to taste, I use salt, pepper, and paprika. Cook until cabbage is tender. This reheats well.

Precook some chicken breasts and hamburgers. These can be reheated in microwave quickly. Add cheese and/or salsa.

Put any meat with or without veggies and seasonings in a crock pot.

Make Spongebob's flax bread (or as muffins). This makes a great breakfast with cheese or cream cheese. Your husband could do his own breakfast with the bread, cream cheese, and some deli meat at least some days.

It will get easier after induction.

Don't be angry with your husband. You are doing a very good thing helping him with this food plan but he is ultimately responsible for what he eats. My DH LCs with me but can eat a lot more than I can without gaining and without craving. I let him eat what he wants (which is usually not often and not too bad) until he gets too HC, then I talk to him and suggest he watch it.

Lipid Sun, Jan-16-05 11:12

Quote:
87 pounds at 5'2? Am I reading that right? Yikes.


My daughter is 5'2 and her weight stays between 87-92 and she also has a very tiny frame.... I think its hard for medium framed people to understand sometimes that there are some people out there that truly have an extremely tiny frame and can't carry much weight at all....my daughter starts to have a belly at weights above 95 and a little too much in the rear.

It may be unbelievable for some, but there are women like this out there.... my daughter wears a 4 1/2 size shoe and a size 4 ring.... this woman here also says she wears a size 4 ring so I can easily believe that she has weight issues when weighing above 100.

black57 Sun, Jan-16-05 11:41

Quote:
Originally Posted by KryssiMc
I get up at 4:30 to make his breakfast, then make mine after I work out, then my daughter's. I make his lunch while he's in the shower. Then I have to make my daughter's etc.


My $.02 It seems as though you are doing nothing but cooking all day. Is there an easier way to do the meals?

UrbanZero Sun, Jan-16-05 12:26

Quote:
Originally Posted by KryssiMc
Thank you too, Urban. Only find the diet hard because we are all carb freaks normally. This is a total lifestyle change and, as it's only been a few days, it's been rough. Maybe there should be a Bread Rehab!


Yeah, I see how that could be rough. I guess at first for me it was tough- my two fav foods are pasta and sandwiches- but I was so happy that I could eat full fat everything- I grew up in a fat-free everything household; fat free milk, fat free cheese, fat free sour cream, and low fat everything else... the no crackers/chips/bread can take some getting used to.

Dr. A says the first 3 days are the hardest! So congrats on getting through the tough part! :)

sydnarella Sun, Jan-16-05 12:35

I did vodka and water during induction sometimes and it was ok - not saying that its a good thing to do - just that it didnt mess me up.

Justjen72 Sun, Jan-16-05 13:26

I think what the poster meant about cooking three meals instead of one is the following. I am the only person in my house who low carbs. I have to cook a seperate meal for myself a lot of the time. The rest of my family has spagetti, I have to make myself a hamburger patty and green beans. I assume that is what she meant.

KryssiMc Sun, Jan-16-05 22:35

Hey Beans,

I think you're being really judgemental about my weight. I ate anything I wanted and still wouldn't gain weight. Carried two children and couldn't gain weight. It's obviously what my body wants to be. Now that I'm a little older, I seem to hover around 100 except for the past two years. I'm assuming that's because I have developed some muscle as well. I think I'm done with these boards because I have a serious bunch of negative people who truly hate thin people that don't have to work that hard to be that way. Thanks to those of you who have helped and to AndreaBash and Beans4Me or whatever your name is, get lives and stop hating the thin people...they have weight issues too. I'm totally sympathetic to heavier people although I can't relate. Guess I was raised better. Good luck to the rest of you.

AndreaBash Sun, Jan-16-05 23:15

Wow. I simply pointed out what many people would have pointed out if they had noticed. You bit my head off. Now you're making a character judgment about my entire personal philosphy?

I didn't make any comments about you as a person. This is a WEIGHT LOSS board -- you can expect to find people talking about, questioning, and making conversation about YOUR WEIGHT. It's not a taboo subject on this WEIGHT LOSS board.

What probably IS a taboo subject would be you attacking me, judging me as a person, and telling me to "get a life". I have no idea how you can jump off the deep end and decide what and whom I "truly hate" based on 2 posts, but I invite you to use the ignore feature so my discussion of weight loss topics won't interfere with your vision for this board.

ninnin Mon, Jan-17-05 02:13

Gee...I thought she wasn't a thin person now?

4beans4me Mon, Jan-17-05 07:36

Quote:
I'm totally sympathetic to heavier people although I can't relate. Guess I was raised better.


That comment was uncalled for.

If you feel comfortable at 87 pounds than so be it, I apologize for my remark above.

<adds thread to my ignore box>

Samantha22 Mon, Jan-17-05 07:40

Good Luck!
 
I can appreciate your frustration. I started atkins because my boyfriend was already on it...and about three weeks later he got sick of it and i was left for myself. After the first week or so....its not so hard..you'll see the weight coming off....and you wont care wether or not he's following it...the scale and the bagginess of your clothes will be motivation! Maybe you and your daughter should focus..and if he's not serious..trust me..it will creep up on him. Because i've found that "sorta" following induction doesn't work, you have to commit to it or it will cause you to gain weight. Good luck....and hopefully he'll help you out more. The other girl was right also it helps to keep a journal on www.fitday.com.....i use it every day...i have since i started atkins in november and its been a life saver. GOODLUCK!


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