Doh! You got me there, but it's still a variant of Godwin's law, saying that we are acting like they are Nazis... I think.

Oh well, thank you for not calling us Nazis, sorry for the misquote.

It's ok :)

We might disagree on some things, but I dont bear any ill will against you guys. I wouldnt call you such a bad name. :rheart:

The theme we see is, "it won't change anything, so don't do it." Or that somehow, by regulating advertising aimed at children, you somehow "limit" people's choices. Neither is addressing the actual argument. then there is the "parents need to grow a spine" school of thought, that says we should allow all marketing of any kind to children because it's up to parents to limit the damage.

Have I missed any of these arguments?

Personal responsibility: parents, raise your kids.
Corporate responsibility: parents, raise your kids.

Oddly different standards. Those seem to be the lines of thought, such as it is.

This is probably neither here nor there, but I recall as my kids got too big for happy meals, the burger, fries and small drink could be bought at a "special price" by ordering an "All American meal". Now that might not be what they'd call it in Liverpool ;)... but really, it's the exact same meal, and even though they don't even advertise the All American Meal, it's the exact same food in that's in the happy meal.

That's the problem - if when I lived in New York City someone suggested that we buy half a cow, people would have thought they were nuts. Where would we put it? Even here in Des Moines, the hassel of finding someone to share a cow, then storing it, and with our power constantly going out due to spring and summer storms, and this year the ice storms, there's now way I could keep alot of food in a freezer here, And then trying to figure out when it would be available, make it not worth the effort. So we pay more the convenience. Which is my point. Getting grass fed beef in a similar manner that we get grain fed beef is going to be quite expensive and I can't see americans doing it.

Oh, boy. Just stumbled upon this post. Sorry for chiming in so late. This is really wise, in my opinion. I couldn't agree more with what you said.

When my son was 8 he used to go out with the little boy round the corner who is the same age as him. They often ended up at macdonalds (with his mum), my son ate a chicken sandwich value meal (he NEVER orders anything different!) and his 8yr old friend ordered TWO extra value deluxe cheeseburger meals. Alex would come home and go off to karate/swimming/cycling or somesuch, his friend would come home and get on his playstation. I don't think the toys had anything to do with either of their choices however Alex knew fine well i'd have ripped into him if he'd ordered TWO meals!