Healthy Econa Oil
 

:wave: Hi NIKKIEND, I have been using Healthy Econa Oil on a daily basis as a spritzer(I told trainerdan like a mazola spray). Like I said I would like 3 months to fully evaluate it. Premature findings show no gastric issues(like Olestra), no weight gain, and 0.5 percent body fat loss(although I can't say it's the Econa because I weight train regularly,and keep my fat grams under 15 a day,too strict really). I also have to tell you that when I started my bodyfat was 14.2, so I may achieve slower results. I will keep the forum updated. Since I am living in Okinawa I work with some Okinawans who have translated the "nutritional info". It is much easier to understand when they explain it. Any questions please ask and I will try to get them translated. I can offer it for less than normal because it is a personal transaction and use an APO/FPO address. Total cost would be approximatly 10.00 a bottle and would take about 6 months to a year to use if spritzed like I use it. If you HAVE to deep fry order two and seperate them. Of course, refrigerate. I will update as needed.

:roll: Sorry I forgot Evertything in moderation!! My Motto!!

healthy econa oil
 

so no inquires in 2 weeks?????????????????????? :confused:

Keeto,
I'm still waiting for someone to reply who has used it long enough to say if it really works or not...

I, too, am waiting to see if anyone has good results -- seems like I already spend so much on vitamins, protein powder, etc. that I don't want to buy anything unless I'm sure it works.

Peg,
Amen to that one!

I see your point
 

I understand, I just wan :roll: ted to know if there were any thoughts or questions.

Dag for frying
 

Can DAG Oil be used for frying ? Or just as a spray type oil, on salads, or sometimes my protein pancake recipe calls for 2 tablespoons of oil.

I hope you can fry with it, I'd rather not down it tablespoon style

Dag oil versus MCT Oil
 

I'm not sure why there is so much interest in DAG Oil when it's characteristics are just about the same as MCT (Medium Chain Triglyceride) Oil that has been around and used in hospitals for years. MCT oil digests primarily through the liver so it provides energy with minimal storage in adipose tissue.

MCT Oil is stable up to about 300 degrees Fahrenheit. I guess you could saute lightly with it, but it can be added to pancakes, and other batter based foods and smoothies.

This afternoon I did not have time to eat so I took 3 teaspoons straight (no taste but the feel of oil is kind of yucky). In a few minutes my hunger was gone and it's dinner time and I'm still not hungry.

If you can find Organic (un hydrogenated) coconut butter (I can hear the screams of terror, but read Dr. Mary Enig who debunks with real science the propaganda put out mainly by the hydrogenated soy oil lobby), it is the best thing for frying. It has a very high burn temperature, you need less of it than regular oil, it has only 7 instead of 9 calories per gram (negligible) and it is almost 1/2 MCT Oil. So about half the Coconut butter you eat will give you nearly instant energy and will not end up added to your adipose tissue.

By the way, when you eat MCT Oil the liver converts it to energy by creating ketones. Some people reckon that if you are keep carbs in check that MCTs can trigger ketosis when your body may be resisting. I don't use Keto sticks any more, but someone might want to test this.

Ferrando.

Thanks Ferrando,

I will take your advice, however I just purchased 3 bottles of DAG oil, so I will run through those first and then give them MCT a try. I think I bought it before without realizing it, when I first started doing low-carb / keto, I bought a lot of low carb stuff, one was keto butta, and I thought it was gonna be like regular butter, but it was an oil, I think I have it still somewhere.

Is this the same thing or is it an MCT, if so I guess I can try that first!


Ryan

Keto Buttah
 

Hi Ryan:

I've never tried Keto Buttah but immediately looked it up after you mentioned it. It is flavoured MCT Oil. Somebody else also makes an orange (yuk) flavoured version.

MCT Oil itself has no taste at all, so my approach is to add it to my low carb pancakes, low carb breads, and also to mix it with other oils to give it a flavour.

Also we need certain fats in our diet. The Essential Fatty Acids like flax oil and fish oils are an absolute must. Also what would life be without a bit of olive oil dribbled over feta cheese. I mix the best virgin olive oil I can find with 50% MCT Oil. The MCT oil prevents the Olive oil from going granular in the refrigerator and there's enough flavour in the Olive to make the MCT Oil quite pleasant. I also mix MCT oil in the blender with regular creamery butter. I use about 60% MCT and 40% butter. The resulting "spread" is very spreadable at refrigerator temperature and melts at room temperature. It's a better flavour than artificial butter flavour. On low carb diets a little butter will not hurt us as long as we don't go overboard and as long as our main fats are from the Omega 3 and 6 families.

Good luck with the DAG Oil and let us know if it does something that MCTs don't do. There's always room for improvement.

Ferrando

Healthy Econa Oil
 

Actually the version sold here in Japan CAN be used safely in frying. I am proud to report as a bodybuilder since starting my stint w/ Healthy Econa Oil I have gone from 14.2% bodyfat to 12.6% bodyfat(no other changes have been made) . I have only used it as a spray so the way I see it, the possibilities are endless. That is my personal prognosis, try it at your own risk.

V/R,
Keeto

DAG
 

KEETO--

would you be so kind as to contact me via e-mail at instynct999~yahoo.com in regards to DAG oil

i have a question or two and would like if possible to purchase through you

many thanks/instynct

DAG oil
 

Hi Keeto,
If I read correctly a while back, you mentioned you try to keep your fat intake to 15g or lower...I'm assuming you are eating low carb, so what are you eating to make up all of those additional calories?? What do you think your nutrient composition is like? Just curious...I'm new to the low carb world
thanks! :)

btw i am sure you could tell anyway, but that e-mail is instynct999~yahoo.com

i also have access to some great fat loss products at low!! prices so we can discuss that if interested

thanks

Enova cooking oil
 

Here is the ADM web site for Enova cooking oil.
This has a good explanation of how it works.



http://www.enovaoil.com

MCT or Enova Oil
 

Does Anyone know where I can purchase MCT, DAG or Enova oils?

MCT or Enova Oil
 

Does Anyone know where I can purchase MCT, DAG or Enova oils?

Click on the link in reklaw99's post just above yours and you can see which stores in Chicago and Ga/SC carry it, as well as how to order Enova oil online.

Kay

emat,
sorry I haven't been on in so long. I do eat low carb (ie: no pasta,rice,bread, etc.). I eat alot of Okinawan based foods. Sashimi and a varied seaweed salad is a staple. Goya (bitter melon) either stir fried or juiced. And lastly fruits with non-fat cottage cheese in the morning and MASSIVE vegetables (raw or lightly steamed) in the afternoon. I average about one cup of vegies every hour until 7 p.m. Lots of water here for extra hydration (64 ounces + because of humidity). Of course multi-vitamin and magma green with my goya juice. I am still using Econa Oil (witch by the way can be bought in the U.S. now in a few cities and on the web under the name Enova. If you have problems I will still help to send it to you until Feb 2004 and then I will be transfering) I have met my goal (and then some) 132 Lbs. and 13% BF now. The reason for my slight gain in BF is because I broke my foot 3 months ago so cardio has been impossible. I did keep up my strength training though and now I am all healed and back in the game! :angel:

V/R

Econa Healthy Oil is now being sold in the United States through a join project by the Japanese Import company (Kao) and Archer Daniels Midland.

The US version is called "Enova Oil". I bought some at my local Acme Supermarket yesterday and made l/c fried chicken. It was fantastic-- and NO side effects at all.

More info is available at: www.enovaoil.com

This stuff is not a fake fat like Olean (ie, there will be no anal leakage :barf: ).

Anyway, I don`t do lots of deep frying, but its good to know that when I have acraving for it, there is a better oil to use!!

-DB

This sounds like another "too good to be true" thing.

NOT to good to be true! :)
 

How Enova Works:

Even if that is true... wouldn't you have to eat it in isolation of other foods/fats to get the benefit, since those other foods might be supplying the missing "pieces"?

Good point....I`m just theorizing here, but if other foods provide the "missing links" for the Enova, wouldn't those foods then be deprived of their full molecular composites? If there is an overall deprivation of this "link", unless you ate something that had an excess of whatever it is, you would still have the insufficient quantity regardless of which food product it is missing from, right?

Dunno if that makes sense, or if it has any basis.

In any case, the studies and stuff about Enova are all available on the link in their website. www.enovaoil.com.

Woo, I see that you are pretty good with figuring this stuff out (I read your very helpful and intelligent discussion of Dreamfields technology), so if you can make sense of this oil, and figure out whether it`s for real or not, I would definitely want to see what you think!

-db

Well, even though I'm extremely skeptical, I'm still a sucker. I ordered 4 bottles from the Enova site. *sigh*

Worse comes to worse, you wont have any side effects, and you can just use it like regular oil....besides, there aren`t any carbs in it. :lol: :wave:

I believe you cannot deep-fry with it though - I understand that you can't let it get higher than 300 F.

Well, I've been lucky. I've been getting a steady supply of this Enova DAG oil from a local discount food store for much cheaper than in the supermarket.

Also, it states on the bottle "recommended frying temp. is 375, avoid overheating oil above 420".

I just use it in shakes mostly, when I need added fat. Or off the spoon, it's about tasteless. I LIKE the taste of ex-virgin olive oil in salad and this DAG oil is still too expensive to me to fry with, although I don't personally eat hardly any fried food, I saute with the olive oil mostly also.

I deep fried chicken in it earlier this week. Worked for me-- no weird burns, scents, tastes or other recognizable issues.

-db