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cygirl Sun, Jun-12-05 13:47

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gailew
I just found some premium organic coconut milk in the store and it's as thick and rich as whipped cream. I'm going to fiddle with those 2 things and come up with something that is like a treat instead of a supplement. Then I'll have dessert 3 times a day :) -Gail


So Gail what did you come up with?

misskimbee Sun, Jun-12-05 16:08

What I've done with my coconut milk (both the thicker and more fluid variety) is just add a little splenda to it. Easily it's my new favorite dessert. My mouth just sings when I taste it!!
I'm gonna try to make coconut popsicles with the cream :)

Gailew Sun, Jun-12-05 16:44

Well, I've typed out this recipe and lost it twice somehow. Anyhow, here it (hopefully) is:
Coconut pudding:
1 can of coconut milk, room temp. (not lite)
1 cup of coconut oil barely melted
1/2 cup coconut, shredded
1 tsp. vanilla
1 pkg. stevia
1/8 cup sf caramel syrup
Stir together well, and refrigerate overnight (to soften the coconut). Actually, I like this better not too cold. At room temp. it's creamier. It only takes about 3 Tbs. for a dose of the coconut oil, but it's very rich and filling.
I also like the coconut milk by itself. It has a natural sweetness.

clairedavi Thu, Jan-19-06 12:41

Coconut Oil makes me tired. I have been taking it for 5 days, and it wipes me out. I have reduced it. Has anyone else experienced this?

cindy_cfid Sun, Jan-22-06 22:20

Clairdavi, you may have a yeast die off reaction.

yogama Sun, Feb-26-06 17:21

I have been using organic virgin coconut oil since the first of the year, at the same time i started lc'ing. I was taking 2tbs per day and i was incredibly hungry for the first week or two even though i was eating plenty. i just wrote it off to increased metabolizm and kept my fingers crossed. I got a headache when i would take a tbs by itself and i would feel real tired but i didnt worry about it because i had read about candida die off and figured that's what was going on.

At 6 weeks i had lost 20lbs and i dont normally lose that much that fast so i am pretty convinced it is the ccno. I then decided to up my dosage from 2 to 3tbs per day occasionally 4. When i upped my dosage to 3tbs that first day i took the 3rd one around 4:30pm. i noticed that night i was kind of restless and i was having a hard time concentrating on what i was reading so i got on the computer and visited this forum. i cannot tell you how unusuall that is for me to be restless like that, but i am positive that it is an increase in energy from the ccno.

One other thing i have noticed since taking the ccno is, i have had an infection in my gums for about 6mos or so and after six weeks the infection is much, much better. I also read an article by the Dept of Health.gov where HIV/AIDS patients were given ccno and there were definite signs of improvement. one person who was newly diagnosed was cured, while other patients condition improved. I have also read where it helps the thyroid.

I can feel it doing something positive to my body in many ways.
I am grateful for this thread and hope more people continue to post their progress.

PS I cook my eggs in a tbs of ccno in the am, i cook all my veggies in ccno but other than that i take it by the tbs. i thought it would be real oily and thick tasting but it reminds me of the same oiliness as butter. Not too bad for the benefits.

Bye all

Thanks all for sharing!!

tunkany Mon, Feb-27-06 08:14

Quote:
Originally Posted by Athena123
I just thought I'd let everyone know I stopped taking the coconut oil daily. It's hard trying to work 2 tablespoons into my meal preparations daily and I'm definitely not down with eating it by the spoonful. That just kind of skeeves me out eating a spoonful of grease. I decided that I'd just use it if I'm sauteing foods since it's going to be healthier than using most other oils. Hopefully I'll still get the benefits.



I've found that the different brands of coconut oil are different, too. I really like Nutiva, it tastes more coconutty than Tropical Tradiditions VCO. Make sure it's virgin, it's not yucky to me at all, just eating it off the spoon. Only a teaspoon at a time, though. I also make smoothies with it: frozen fruit plus a tablespoon of VCO in the blender, it has a frosty consistency. You can't even tell it's there. I also put it in coffee and tea, it tastes yummy but the oil on the top might gross some people out. I cook with it, suatee in it, use it for greasing pans and baking. It's too expensive to deep fry, so I don't doo that. Once I tried coconut shrimp, which was good but used up too much oil.

Anyway, it does help with the weight loss, but I'm still hungry all the time. I eat for two and am still losing weight. If I take too much at a time (more than 1 tbs) it makes me too hyper.
Don't eat too much before you go to bed.

jbmoore Wed, Mar-01-06 00:32

You might try this:

Melt 1 square unsweetened chocolate into 1/2 cup or so of coconut oil - over low heat just until chocolate is melted. Add your favorate sweetener to taste. Pour into little dish or bowl. Refrigerate until slightly set, then cut into squares. Then return to refrigerator. It's like melt in your mouth fudge!

HoneyBunch Wed, Mar-01-06 16:16

;) Such a good thread!!!

I got some virgin co for the first time and I cant wait to start using it. I also heard it's used for conditioning and treating your hair & scalp.

OOOOOOO I'm so exited!

:rose: check back later

skinnyRay Wed, Mar-01-06 18:18

what is yeast die off reaction?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cindy_cfid
Clairdavi, you may have a yeast die off reaction.



can anyone explain yeast die off reaction to me? what is it? what effects does it have? how long does it last for? (yes I was an inquisitive child :) )


Honeybunch

Yes it is very good for the hair and scalp. I read a thread on this forum about someone who fixed one of those nasty itchy/flaky head conditions by warming it and putting it in their hair for an hour or so. I tried it and my hair was very silky - but it is messy :)

TIA
:rose:



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skinnyRay Fri, Mar-17-06 02:13

Well i have been taking CCNO for about 4-5 weeks and i still feel like crap. I feel so sick that i'm thinking of stopping. I really wanted it to help with not only my w/l but with my sluggish thyroid.
:help:

Zuleikaa Fri, Mar-17-06 10:25

Quote:
Originally Posted by clairedavi
Coconut Oil makes me tired. I have been taking it for 5 days, and it wipes me out. I have reduced it. Has anyone else experienced this?
It sounds like you're experiencing yeast die off.

Zuleikaa Fri, Mar-17-06 10:30

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinnyRay
Well i have been taking CCNO for about 4-5 weeks and i still feel like crap. I feel so sick that i'm thinking of stopping. I really wanted it to help with not only my w/l but with my sluggish thyroid.
:help:
It sounds like you have yeast die off.

That means you're infected with candida (yeast) and the CCO is killing it. Your body is trying to get rid of the kiilled yeast and that's what's causing your symptoms/reaction. If you stop, the yeast will once again start growing and taking over.

Yeast die off can have all the symptoms of a bad case of the flu. It can also leave you exhausted and foggy minded.

It lasts until it stops, anywhere from 2 weeks tapering off to 2 months depending on severity of infestation and power of te anti fungal, i.e., CCO, oils, or other treatments.

It sounds like you should continue with the CCoO and take something stronger, i.e., oregano or tea tree oil, as well.

yogama Fri, Mar-17-06 20:00

Hey SkinnyRay -

I am positive what you are experiencing is die off. I have been taking vco now for 2 1/2 months and I have felt a slow decline in all symptoms...mainly feeling tired and somtimes a headache. Recently I have noticed somedays im tired and others i have more energy and everyday i feel better and better. Just yesterday i took 3 tablespoons (normally i take 2) by midday and i was bouncing off the walls i had so much energy i was giddy. I was in a great mood and i know it was because of the vco. Because i know how much better i feel i strongly urge you to hang in there.

I was wondering how much your taking? You mentioned early on you were only taking 1 tsp. Have you increased it any, if not maybe you could give that a try. Maybe by taking such a small amount your dragging out the healing process???

Gosh, I sure hope you can hang in there because it has literally worked miracles on me. I am so excited about I keep trying to get everyone I know to try it. Good luck and I hope you feel better soon!!!

skeeweeaka Fri, Mar-17-06 23:13

Menopausal Help...
 
Ray sounds like you are doing well... My yeast has got me bad right now... Maybe I need to try the coconut oil... in what form are u taking it, I have seen it as a solid... This article suggests not only correction of thyroid, but increase in progesterone in body....hMMMMM... http://groups.google.com/group/misc...ca2e5a2e2666ecb

HEY FOUND THIS RECIPE FOR YOU GUYS...

Here are two of my coconut oil salad dressing recipes:

Lita's Ranch Salad Dressing
One egg
4 tbsp cider vinegar (try 2 tbsp of apple cider vinegar plus 2 tbsp balsamic vinegar or 4 tbsp of rice vinegar)
1/2-tsp salt
1/2-tsp dry mustard
Spike or other seasoning to taste

Add the above ingredients to your blender. Then very slowly dribble into blender one cup of oil consisting of about 3/4-cup coconut oil (melted and cooled) plus 1/4-cup extra virgin olive oil to the blender and blend till smooth. (The more coconut oil, the thicker the dressing). (If oil added too fast, or oil is too hot, mixture will curdle).

Then add the following ingredients to the mayonnaise you just made to make a thick and creamy Ranch dressing that can be uses as a substitute for mayonnaise:

1-1/4 cup buttermilk
4-6 tbsp or so sour cream, cream cheese or honey yogurt
Onion flakes to taste
Garlic powder to taste
Salt
Juice of one lemon
Spike to taste or other seasoning
Black pepper
Parsley flakes

Blend until smooth. Refrigerate. This dressing will thicken as it cools. You can use it instead of mayonnaise and can dilute it with more buttermilk if you want a thinner Ranch dressing. If this tastes too tart, add a little honey.

Other suggestions for using coconut oil in your diet:

1) When you make pastries, substitute 50% coconut oil for whatever fat is recommended, hopefully butter.

2) When you fry or sauté eggs, fish, veggies or whatever, toss in some coconut oil. Add butter or olive oil you wish, for flavor.


OTHER RECIPES...http://www.coconutdiet.com/recipes.htm
OTHER INFO... http://www.coconutdiet.com/skin_health.htm

skinnyRay Sun, Mar-19-06 21:46

Thank you to all for your answers.

skeeweeaka
I am taking pure coconut oil. It is solid and liquid depending on the temperature. :D When I bought it, it was hot so it was liquid but atm it is solid.

I was taking 1tbs 3x day but i felt too yuck on that so now i'm having 1tsp 3xdaily and working my way up. I feel a little better. I read that starting low was maybe a better way to go if the reaction is too severe.

Thanks for all your support. I so wanted to quit but having done the hard yards i felt quiting would be unwise.

yogama

Quote:
i was bouncing off the walls i had so much energy

I can relate to that. A couple of times i have taken CCNO and had the reverse of the die off and felt like I was abuzz with energy. It's like rocket fuel but unfortunately i've only had that a couple of times. Both times tho I noticed my wieght dropped the next morning. Any ideas about that?

Just wondering has anyone found the weight loss speed up when using CCNO?

bye for now
Rai :wave:

Shreen Sun, Mar-19-06 21:54

I have been trying to find this on the forum forever!! I have been wondering what all the buzz is about!

skinnyRay Sun, Mar-19-06 22:19

hi shreen

I think the buzz is all the effects from the ccno LOL

:hyper: :hyper:

yogama Mon, Mar-20-06 21:21

Skinny -

Quote:
It's like rocket fuel but unfortunately i've only had that a couple of times. Both times tho I noticed my wieght dropped the next morning. Any ideas about that?


Well, now that you mention it I lost 3lbs right after that day i was so buzzed, but also, it was my first week to lose weight (5lbs) after a 4 week stall.

That said, i lost 20lbs the first 6 weeks i started lcing and ccno. I have never lost that much weight that fast. It took me another 4 weeks to lose 5lbs but during the one month stall i was losing inches. YEAH!!

Hope this info helps someone.

ketojoe Mon, Mar-20-06 21:52

Coconut Oil contains MCTs or medium-chain triglycerides. These special fats do not need bile or to go through the normal fat digestion process. So taking some will allow the oil to be processed much like carbohydrate (without raising blood sugar). It makes sense it would rev things up a bit. Also MCTs can't be stored as fat. The only negative I see is that the other 40% of coconut oil is saturated fat, so if you are trying to watch it, just get some MCT oil from the pharmacy or buy MCT fuel from twinlab.

Shreen Tue, Mar-21-06 12:19

I've been using CO for a few weeks and thought that you were joshing me about the "energy", but I ate two CO chocolates last night & couldn't sleep- I thought previously it was the caffeine in the cocoa powder... who knows?

shopgirl28 Tue, Mar-21-06 15:15

I just went back to using it when I started the m/e. Within an hour of consuming it I feel warmer. My body temp definitely raises; plus it makes my eggs yummy!

chrissie05 Wed, Mar-22-06 11:15

Can't wait to buy it. Going to the Health Food Store right after work. thanks...

skeeweeaka Fri, Mar-24-06 20:08

I tried it today and had toooo much energy...it was odd since I have chronic fatigue...real odd!!!

Shreen Sat, Mar-25-06 07:53

I am not eating it before bedtime any more- in the am & lunch only- either the CO or ketosis has got me up all night!!

ProfGumby Sat, Mar-25-06 14:52

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meg_S
I eat coconut oil for the health benefits.. I can't say whether it helps speed weight loss, it does help my athletic performance.

It's excellent mixed with sunflower and pupkin seeds, or in a hot cocoa, I also eat it on crisp breads. If I feel like cheating, the most delicious cheat is a piece of bread or half a bun fried in a couple tbs of coconut oil.. left in it when it's crispy to soak up the oil, with a VERY thin layer of raw honey on top.

I'll use it in dishes with curry or certain spices as well. Virgin coconut oil tastes light and almost sweet, with a hint of coconut.


I make garlic bagels sort of that way. Cut in half and toast a LC Natural Ovens bagel, spread liberally with coconut oil and fry in a skillet on medium/medium low heat till crispy brown around the edges.
(I keep the bagels in the freezer, thus the step of toasting them 1st)

Right out of the pan, spread more coconut oil on the two halves of the bagel. Sprinkle garlic and onion powder on oiled grilled face of bagel, add a shake or two of basil, some Parmesan cheese and some shredded mozzerella, place under broiler till cheese is starting to get brown and get bubbly.

This also is the base for the worlds most awesome sausage or bacon and egg breakfast sandwich...... :yum: :yum: :yum:

skinnyRay Sun, Mar-26-06 05:58

Quote:
Originally Posted by yogama
Hey SkinnyRay -

I am positive what you are experiencing is die off. I have been taking vco now for 2 1/2 months and I have felt a slow decline in all symptoms...mainly feeling tired and somtimes a headache. Recently I have noticed somedays im tired and others i have more energy and everyday i feel better and better.

Gosh, I sure hope you can hang in there because it has literally worked miracles on me. I am so excited about I keep trying to get everyone I know to try it. Good luck and I hope you feel better soon!!!



Yogama I am so excited! :wave: For 2 days now I have been feeling back to my old self. I have had energy (even went for a swim yesterday) and the symptoms of the die off are almost non exixtent. Thanks so much for your encouragement. I was almost at the top of the mountain about to head down. I even had the scale move slightly too which hasn't happened in ages.

Cheers to everyone who has encouraged me and answered my questions. :cheer:

yogama Sun, Mar-26-06 11:35

Skinnyray - :clap: :cheer: :wiggle:

I am thrilled you hung in there to get the reward!!!! Yay You!!!!

I feel more healthy every day; My core strength feels stronger and stronger.
There are some days I feel tired and it seems related to the ccno but the positive far outweighs :p the negative.

Congrats on your lb loss. Yippyyy!!!

skeeweeaka Sun, Mar-26-06 14:59

Whatever is in coconut oil is absolutely amazing. I cannot believe the well being that I feel eating this product, along with the much much needed energy!

chrissie05 Sun, Mar-26-06 18:29

I've been taking coconut oil for the last 4 days, three tbs per day. It is also making me very tired and sluggish which is odd for me b/c on m&e diet I always have so much energy and need less sleep. what in the world is yeast die off?? do i need to see a doctor or should i stop taking the CO? thanks.


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