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pegm Thu, Aug-15-02 11:53

Anyone tried it? Results?
 
Has anyone tried the DAG oil? What were your results? Any problems?

Thanks,

Peg

KEETO Fri, Aug-16-02 09:34

DAG research
 
I have been using Healthy Econa Oil for two weeks. I need at least 3 months to give a real breakdown. TrainerDan I can send it to you 7.00 dollars a bottle plus shipping. So far I am using it like a "mazola spray" You should check out the Okinawa lifestyle, it benifits us bodybuilders.

Schwarz Sat, Aug-17-02 18:32

Any possible similarities to 'Olestra'?
 
I sure don't know anything about olestra (I think that's what it's called), but what little I've heard about it, it sure sounds like a disgusting product. Are there any similarities this DAG oil has to olestra?

reklaw99 Sat, Aug-17-02 20:22

There are no similarities between DAG oil and olestra
Olestra has a problem with bring metabolised or breaking down.
It is similar to ingesting mineral oil , it will just go through your digestive system unaffected . Dag oil on the other hand is broken down in you digestive system just like any vegitable or animal fat (triglyceride).

ferrando Wed, Aug-21-02 20:47

DAG and MCT
 
I wonder how DAG compares with MCT Oil, the fraction of Medium Chain Triglycerides that have been used for some time by body builders and that has a history of safe hospital use and some studies that it lowers blood cholesterol.

Readers should do an internet search on Medium Chain Triglycerides to get all the opinions, but it is an odorless, colourless oil that can be used in cooking (but not frying).

It is slightly lower in calories than other fats and oils, but like the claims made for DAG, it digests almost instantly through the liver and provides a boost in energy about 15 minutes after eating.

The other interesting thing about MCT Oil is that the body generally will not utilize it for storage.

One of the things that MCT Oil does (and this may be true of DAG as well) is that it triggers ketosis, because it forces the body to use energy from fat.

I've been using MCTs now for about 4 months. One of the main things I find besides the added energy and endurance (on long bike rides), is that when I'm really hungry and eating low carb a bit of MCT Oil makes me feel "fed" sooner.

One of the drawbacks of Low Carb eating is that it takes a longer time for low carb foods to raise energy, so we may overeat. With some MCT Oil mixed with my olive oil in a salad, I almost instantly lose that "I'm starving" feeling and can push myself away from the table sooner.

It would be great if DAG offers similar benefits and has other positive qualities as well.

nikkiend Tue, Aug-27-02 12:51

I would love to hear any results that anyone may have with the DAG oil. Anyone been using it long enough?

EricaSaxon Tue, Aug-27-02 15:04

I'm kinda curious how you stumbled across this in the first place, TrainerDan!
The posts in this thread are fascinating, but I have to admit that the science is a little beyond me. . .
I'n unclear, though. The ADM sites indicate that the DAG oil reduces fats in the bloodstream after a meal, but don't claim any effects on adipose tissue. Soooo. . . my question is, since I use bottled oil very rarely, should I just gulp down the DAG in addition to my ordinary fat intake on a daily basis, or only use it when I would ordinarily use another oil? Do you have to replace other fats, or can you just eat 2 teaspoons?
I was just wondering how you found the sources you credit.
You must be a lot better at internet research than I am! I would like to read the full text on "6. Katsuragi Y, Yoi T, et al. Effects of dietary diaclyglycerol on obesity and hyperlipidemia. White paper provided by Kao Corporation via Archer Daniels Midland ."
Anyhow, thanks for bringing it to light!

chevi97 Wed, Aug-28-02 17:56

Re: THANK YOU!
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Trainerdan
I love the members of this board!

Thanks for that reklaw! I'll be checking it out soon.

I didnt see it on that link what is the name of the product????

EricaSaxon Thu, Aug-29-02 09:44

Re: Dag oil
 
Quote:
Originally posted by reklaw99
You can purchase Econa DAG oil from
http://www.maruwa.com/onlineshop/spice/spice.html
Archer Daniels Midland (ADM) will soon be offering this oil
in the U.S.

It's near the bottom of the page, look for:
Ekona Healthy Cooking Oil For Care Of Fat

Trainerdan Thu, Aug-29-02 10:13

Erica
 
Hi Erica!

I came across it from a tip in a newsletter I get I think. LOL. I get some many magazines, trade, tips from fellow bodybuilders, etc that I forget my sources sometimes. LOL.

Then I started researching it.

Anyway, I am ordering it today and adding it with olive oil to make salad dressing.

I plan to use it in my coming off-season to assist in fending off fat gain while I increase my calorie intake to boost muscle mass.

I know what I usually gain as fat in the off-season, so I can use that as a very unscientific marker of progress.

delilah Thu, Aug-29-02 10:13

I notice that the company that's selling it is based in San Francisco and has a storefront. I know the area they're talking about (Japantown), so I might have to wander down there and check it out. :)

I too would be curious to know the research on its reaction with other fats as well as with the fat soluable vitamins.

And where does one get MCT oil? a bodybuilding store or GNC? Do you have any links about it?

nikkiend Thu, Aug-29-02 12:00

Hi Keeto. Have you been using the DAG oil? I see you're offering to send it to TrainerDan. If I decide to buy some can I order it from you? I'm waiting for some results from people before I decide whether to order it or not.
My niece and her husband are in Okinawa since the holidays. He's stationed there.

ferrando Thu, Aug-29-02 15:15

MCT Oil
 
In Vancouver MCT Oil is sold in stores that cater to body-builders and athletes. Some vitamin stores sell MCT Fuel which unfortunately for LC has been diluted with carbs and orange flavour. When you figure out the MCT content of the flavoured MCT, it's much more expensive than the pure stuff they sell in the body building stores.

You can also check with a nutritionist at a local hospital and they can tell you where they get it. It is widely used in hospitals particularly those with geriatric wards.

I've been using it now for almost 2 months. I mix it 50-50 with olive oil and also use it in low carb baked items.

Ferrando

bike2work Thu, Aug-29-02 15:42

Quote:
Originally posted by delilah
And where does one get MCT oil? a bodybuilding store or GNC? Do you have any links about it?


I found it on netrition.com; the link is on the side of every page in this forum. What they have is not diluted and does not have any carbs or sweeteners but does have "natural" tropical fruit flavor. I'm toying with the idea of trying it myself. Then I remember the flax oil and coconut oil I bought and can't bear to swallow. Maybe the flavoring would help.

chevi97 Thu, Aug-29-02 16:20

Quote:
Originally posted by bike2work


I found it on netrition.com; the link is on the side of every page in this forum. What they have is not diluted and does not have any carbs or sweeteners but does have "natural" tropical fruit flavor. I'm toying with the idea of trying it myself. Then I remember the flax oil and coconut oil I bought and can't bear to swallow. Maybe the flavoring would help.

Have you ever tried adding Flax seed oil to a protein shake you cant even taste it...


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