Since Dodger stated that both plans work, I took his heathen comment as an attempt at humor.
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Yes, it was Dodger's dry attempt at humor! I thought it was funny!! ;)
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Thanks!
I agree that Dodger's comment was tongue-in-cheek (is tongue low carb? :lol: ). I also appreciate Judy's in-depth and helpful explanation of the SB plan (I've read some of her other threads).
I am on Atkins and have been stalled for seven months. I am still happy with Atkins, however, because losing slowly beats gaining at any speed!!!! I did come over here just to check out the SB plan (I've read the books for both plans and am very familiar with the concepts). Because of the stall, I thought I might want to try SB since both plans are solid and DO work. I agree, however, that you have to decide which plan is right for YOU. While I don't mind counting carbs, for me personally, I don't want to have to count fat. I loathe low-fat food and I know that the lower-fat aspect of SB is the one factor that would derail any success I may have - after all, it's something I want to be able to live with as a lifestyle. Even with the stall on Atkins, I am still maintaining, and I'm not discouraged - I eat what I love, which is higher fat low carb. I've never had a sweet tooth, so kicking the sweets was easy: it's the fat I love!!!! However, I know several people who don't like high-fat and have had FANTASTIC success on SB!!!! :cool: YMMV. So, in my long-winded, rambling way, I am just supporting the fact that BOTH plans work, but since both plans are NOT diets but (hopefully) WOL's, you need to read both books and decide on a personal level which plan YOU are most likely to stick to. Good luck to all! |
This was written by Its The Wooo from another thread. Its a brilliant explanation of the difference between the 2 plans!!
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I read that and was impressed with the writing of it. I'm going to print that up. Thanks Judy for bringing it over here.
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i agree with you guys the wooo did very good !! i thought that too.i was inpressed.
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South Beach means I can have a slice of rye toast for breakfast and not eat cream, without feeling that I am cheating.
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WOW! That was INCREDIBLY helpful! Thank you for sharing this!! Also, if there is anyone here on SB and looking for some support...I could use some as well. :o) |
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HI! :wave: I'm glad you found this. It is really good. While I used South Beach for my initial weight loss, I learned how to modify to make it work better for me. If you need any help, come look for me in my journal. :agree: Good Luck! :thup: |
I think JudyNYC summed it up well, a good carbs (low glycemic carbs) WOE rather than a strict LC WOE. Included is a small amount of fruit or grain.
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I have always found the GI problematic as it did not take into consideration amount. Glycemic Load helped me more as I could see how a food rated as low GI could actually be very high GL. Atkins has always incorporated GL (particularly the new Westman et al AFANY) in the program. Foundation vegetables in Induction are both low GI and low GL. The carb ladder emphasizes low GL.
For me, since I am very carb sensitive, I could not follow SB. Too many carbs, too early in weight loss. The last phase is going back to the way you were eating when you gained all your weight. Atkins, on the other hand, is a program of self discovery for you to find out for yourself what foods are a no-no for you personally. It is not a program of fats until maintenance. Whoever wrote that is not that familiar with Atkins. The last stage is eating the foods and in their quantities that will keep you from regaining any weight. It is not about going back to what you did to gain weight. For me, I found SB more hype than science. More about pleasing the consumer than helping them to discover their own issues. This, of course, is just my own opinion. The program does work for some, especially those that are not carb-sensetive and is very popular. |
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"To each his own." Good for you that you've found a way to eat that works for you. I tailored South Beach to suit my needs and made it work for me. :D |
I tried Atkins 14 years ago, lost 10lbs in a week, and stopped out of fear from all the stupid media misinformation surrounding it.
10 years later, fatter and in ill-health, I went to SB. I tailored it twice to work for me. Once, at the very beginning, I eliminated all grains and sugar except a few berries. That way I didn't even have to think about carbohydrates, because the only ones I was getting were green and leafy and harmless. Later, having lost all my weight, I tweaked it again to change from low fat products (like yogurt and cheese) to full fat. I did that because by then I had learned that extra sugar and chemicals are usually substituted for fat in low fat products and, for the first time in my life, I had become interested in eating for optimal health and not just to be slim. That eventually lead toward a lc paleo/primal w.o.e. that seems to be a perfect fit for me, so far. So IMO it's all good. If one method doesn't work, try another. And another. There are plenty of choices now. Just keep your eye on the prize: stable blood sugar, weight loss, and a w.o.e. you are happy to maintain for the rest of your life. |
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We all have our preferences on what works best for us. Atkins is definitely a high fat diet compared to SB. Some people do not do well on Atkins as what the program is trying to do is get our bodies to switch to 'fat burning' machines rather than 'carb burning' machines. This just doesn't work for some and they do very well just reducing carbs and fat. SB is a low fat diet which works well for many people. If SB works for you--great! Stick with it. Do you own experimentation. Atkins works best for people who have trouble with carbs (carbohydrate intolerance). I have friends who eat anything they want, in any amount, and never gain or lose a pound year in and year out. Others can't. So try the different approaches and find what works for you. Good luck. |
I'm trying something new...South Beach Diet Super Charged!
Anyone have any thoughts on this? I think the concept is the same as the original South Beach, but adding in weight training and cardio to increase initial weight loss. I need a kick in the butt! I have been losing and gaining the same 10 or 20 pounds over and over and over..... |
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