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liz175 Fri, Apr-23-04 15:11

Weight Watchers changed a lot over the years. The first time I did Weight Watchers was in the early 80s when I was 24 years old. I didn't have a serious weight problem then, but because of various circumstances in my life I had put on about 35 or 40 pounds over the previous year. I lost the weight easily on Weight Watchers (it took me about three months) and kept it off easily until I got pregnant with my first child four years later. At that time, Weight Watchers limited carbs to the equivalent of two pieces of bread and three small pieces of fruit a day, plus unlimited lowcarb vegetables. If I remember correctly, it was also fairly high protein -- four ounces of meat/fish/chicken at lunch and at dinner. They didn't have the point system yet, so they basically told you what to eat in a balanced meal. I was hungry, but I could stick with it. They did have you carefully measuring out fat (butter and oil), but I used to cheat a little there and use some extra oil in cooking.

I tried Weight Watchers several times in the late 80s and early 90s after putting on lots of weight during my two pregnancies and by that time the plan had changed to be higher carb and lower protein. I could never stick with it. The most I ever lost was 10 pounds and I was a crabby mess when I was on it. I don't know why I didn't just try the old Weight Watchers which had been successful for me. I think they had me convinced that the old plan was unhealthy based on the latest research and therefore I needed to do the new plan. I think I also developed blood sugar problems after my first pregnancy. I probably lost the weight easily when I was young because I did not yet have a severe problem with carbs. At this point, even the old Weight Watchers would be too high in carbs for me.

Lowcarb is certainly easier and cheaper!

lizwhip Fri, Apr-23-04 15:53

I lost all of my post-pregnancy weight after baby #4 on Weight Watchers, but it was hard because I was hungry all the time. And because I used a lot of my points on drinking wine and beer, which was not healthy either. LC works better for me because it controls my blood sugar, so I am not as hungry - plus don't feel like drinking as much alcohol as I did on WW, probably due to the blood sugar being under control.

Liz

Quest Fri, Apr-23-04 16:49

I lost 46 pounds on WW in the mid 80s (before the point system), through a combination of faithful eating and aerobic exercise classes almost every day. It took me 4 months (I lost 13 pounds in the first two weeks). Then I got pregnant. I was never able to have a sustained loss again at WW--the most I could lose seemed to be about 10-15 pounds, then I would backslide. One of my unfortuate WW habits was more or less fasting on the day of the weigh in. It may be that fasting one day a week doesn't do much harm, but it became symbolic to me of the pressure of the weekly weigh in, which preyed on my mind.

LucyLucy Fri, Apr-23-04 19:34

I tried WW about 10 years ago, maybe a lot of people found comfort & support, I had tha nasties, bit**iest group of depressed, hungry, cranky men & women in the bunch! After 2 months of starving myself and losing 3lbs, I demanded my money back! haha. I had constant shaking, sugar ups and downs, I was convinced I was diabetic! I was so cranky myself from my constant starvation and having to listen to ALL those people complain for a freakin hour a week! All they kept saying is "keep trying, that'll be $12/please.........". I'm surprised we all didn't start beating each other up in the parking lot on the way out!

I love this WOL, I'm eating better than I've ever eaten, I eat more vegetables than I've ever eaten, I"m not hungry, my blood sugar is great and I'm losing weight and have energy for exercising!

LL :)

Nancy LC Fri, Apr-23-04 20:40

LOL! Lucy, that's hilarious! Of course they were cranky, they were hypoglycemic and starving!

ericav Sat, Apr-24-04 06:46

You know what everyone? After reading everyones posts about their WW experiences, I realized what MY problem was on it. I mean, I hate to bash it because it really has changed my life--I lost 50 pounds on the program and probably about 5 clothing sizes too--(i have since gained a little bit back, but mostly have kept all of it off since then) BUT--my issue was (in attempting to "re-join" the program) the POINTS system. Everyone else has been saying how hungry it left them--but I dont really remember that being a major problem for me--it was more COUNTING the POINTS that was my issue--I would want to eat things that I know I really SHOULDNT eat but knew I was "allowed" as long as I counted the POINTS--but then by the end of the evening, I would be pretty much OUT of points and then I would FAIL for the day. With Lo-Carbing, there ARE NO POINTS and NOTHING TO KEEP TRACK OF--so that takes that whole aspect of FAILURE out of it!

Ok--I just wanted to say that :)
Erica

doreen T Sat, Apr-24-04 08:12

Yep, I've donated my dollars to WW several times too ... :rolleyes:

Actually, the first time was in 1979 .. I was in college then and successfully lost 25 lbs which were kept off for a few years. I still have the original program book, and just as liz175 mentioned, it was much lower carbs and higher protein back then. In fact, I recently plugged some of the sample menus into fitday, and it works out to average 1200 - 1300 calories per day for women (higher for men and youths), and pretty close to the 40-30-30 ratio of The Zone. Although The Zone is way lower calories than that. It was somewhere in the early to mid-80s that the food plan was totally revamped to include more bread, things like potatoes, pasta and rice were allowed right from the beginning (previously you could substitute one of your 2 bread servings with half a small potato or a small scoop of rice, but not until Week Five) .. and meat portions shrunk. I think the points system came along in the 90's (?) Needless to say, once the program changed, I was never successful again, although I did try several times over the years. I'd be "good" for a couple of weeks, then go off on a bender of pizza, burgers and slabs of cheese. :rolleyes:

I'm glad I saved my old pre-change WW cookbooks though. Many of the recipes are already low-carb, with decent protein portions. Just need a little more fat to jazz 'em up .. :)


Doreen

miav3 Sun, Apr-25-04 07:15

Hi,
I was on weight watchers for about 12 weeks. I lost 40 pounds, but I was obsessed with what I was going to eat next all the time. Another part of my problem is that I evalute restaurats for a living, and at first I would just figure out the points and do really well that way, but I soon started drinking only coffee all day so I could eat whatever I wanted in all the courses I am required to order, and still lose weight each Wednesday. Sometimes I would eat almost nothing on Monday and Tuesday to make sure I had lost, because I had the mentality that I was not going to pay to gain weight. I only gained one time, but I was completely not following the plan the way you are supposed to, and everyone in the group was so happy for me each week and asked what I did to lose the weight, and I felt like a complete phony. It was just unhealthy for me, and I much prefer this way of life, I can always find something at restaurants, the appetizer is a bit hard in some cases, and I give the dessert to my son or get it to go and give it to someone.

Karenemt Mon, Apr-26-04 00:59

I tried WW briefly after my 2nd son was born. I was BFing at the time and obviously had glucose issues (but didn't know it). I did the program faithfully for 8 weeks and lost nothing. At the last weigh-in, there was a different lady there and she insinuated in front of everyone that I was cheating because the program works for everyone and I must be doing it wrong or in denial.

Needless to say, I stormed out of there and never went back.

Paris Mon, Apr-26-04 09:06

I was a weight watcher from 12/2002 until 1/2004 with a few weeks off the program for other experiments. I did well in that I lost 70-some pounds, but I found every loop hole in the POINTS system to binge on my trigger foods and stay within my range or at my target. How I managed to keep the weight gain at bay, muchless lose, is still a mystery to me.

I am really loving my carb-controlled program that I am working now, and it is similar to what I was doing at the end of my WW program, however, counting points makes me crazy now. I am never going back to that kind of compulsion.

dawnellen Wed, Apr-28-04 17:36

well let me say i just joined ww my first wi(weight in i lost 7.2 lbs)the next time i went i Gained 5lbs and that was following the ww program and wasnt even using all my points and before ww i was doing somewhat low carb not strict like i should have.but to me i need to weigh in to keep discipline because i do have a dr office scale and it is just as accurate as wws, also i find that when i eat carbs like you can on ww it just makes me eat more just like i can't have popcorn i can eat at least 2 batches of air popped corn so ww watchers is great if you can controll cravings for carbs but i'm not one of those people. (sorry so long)

LilaCotton Wed, Apr-28-04 21:40

Quote:
I'm glad I saved my old pre-change WW cookbooks though. Many of the recipes are already low-carb, with decent protein portions. Just need a little more fat to jazz 'em up ..


Hmmmm *scratches head* then runs to grab WW cookbook from kitchen shelf.

Indeed! There are a lot of recipes in mine that are LC!!

I can pretty much say the same as everyone here, although I only actually went through one period of time. It was after my first daughter was born. I lost some weight and was constantly hungry, cranky and with low blood sugar. I found myself pregnant again, so quit going. I never went back.

Vanity3 Wed, Apr-28-04 21:49

Yeah, back in August-October of 2003, I did it. I really didn't lose. About 5 pounds the entire time. I did it because my physican is really anti low carb as a WOL. So at her suggestion, I switched. I enjoyed eating the breads that I missed while LCing, but other than that. I wasn't happy having to calculate points and keep a strict journal. I love low carbing. Calculating carbs is much easier than counting points. I swear you need a PhD in Rocket Science to do the math to figure out a WW point!

SusanKH Thu, Apr-29-04 09:56

To be fair, my mom did WW, like twenty years ago, and she's kept the weight off. She no longer counts points or anything, but she has learned to eat in moderation. I love alot about WW - the magazine, the meetings, the support - but I just can't live with the hunger. I thought I really missed fruits alot, but I allowed myself a few fruits last week and they weren't that good.

remickmom Thu, Apr-29-04 20:15

I've been on WW for the past 6 months and for the most part (99.9%) didn't cheat. I exercised, drank my water and lost only 10-15 pounds in that time. Now, after 2 months of no losses on WW here I am. I hope this works- I'm losing my faith in diet programs.


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